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Old 10-16-2010, 04:54 PM
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...and another thing. He'll sign a contract on pay rates alone, leaving work rules behind every time. He'll never even wonder why he makes 15% less than his neighbor who flys somewhere else for the "same pay rate". When they finally do offer a contract that is just short of reasonable, He'll tell you, "Vote Yes! We'll make it up next time." He will allow his MEC to marginalize every perk and friction point of your contract with side letters and LOAs and never say a single word. He will have pay stolen from him at every turn and never file a single pay claim for his whole career, because he never reads the contract and really doesn't even understand how they steal from him.

Worst of all, he will make decisions for his entire crew using his philosophy without ever considering the input they try to give.

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Old 10-16-2010, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by hotwing View Post
You are out of your mind and do not speak for me or any other cal pilot for that matter! I think that we deserve a lot more and I would think that you are in the miniority -- are you a child of 83-85?
No, he's actually an '87 hire. He just wishes he was an '83 -84 hire!
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Old 10-16-2010, 05:38 PM
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and now one of the Houston reps is sending out his version of the "inverted pyramid"... This is very entertaining. Now I'm wishing I'd have just gotten a keg for the weekend...

"I did not understand the nature of our 3-way..." ????!!!! now that's good fuel for a stand up gig.

Can you beileve your dues money pays for this?!!!

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Old 10-16-2010, 06:56 PM
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In the interest of historical accuracy, in 2000 UAL pilots were asking for a lot less $ that management refused to give us, and then Delta got their contract...
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Old 10-16-2010, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot View Post
Your avatar says it all: maybe you should be furloughed for life. I certainly wouldn't have any problem with it.
It DOES say it all! I might have to go work for a company that values my contribution and treats me like a person....but then I'd miss the chance to work with the high caliber pilot and person that CAL is obviously bringing to the table. Doesn't sound like we'd be hanging out on the layover, EWR.

I was on property in 2000. It's honestly ridiculous to say that a pilot contract was the causal factor leading to bankruptcy. Don't give yourself so much credit, IAH. Have you bothered to look at management compensation? Have you seen the mismanagement that was going on? Every pilot on the former UAL list (top to bottom) has taken a big hit....from the ESOP to the bankruptcy to multiple furloughs. It's not being "high and mighty", we're tired of getting screwed and want a contract that reflects our sacrifice.
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Old 10-16-2010, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Bligh View Post
and now one of the Houston reps is sending out his version of the "inverted pyramid"... This is very entertaining. Now I'm wishing I'd have just gotten a keg for the weekend...

"I did not understand the nature of our 3-way..." ????!!!! now that's good fuel for a stand up gig.

Can you beileve your dues money pays for this?!!!
After reading the bullish!t our ENTIRE MEC pulled this week, I expect to wave the white flag in this merger. UAL guys in the know must be p!ssing themselves while laughing at how the CAL MEC is as useless as t!ts on a bull. I am disgusted that I am a part of a pilot group that elected any of our t-bags to a union position.
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Originally Posted by intrepidcv11 View Post
After reading the bullish!t our ENTIRE MEC pulled this week, I expect to wave the white flag in this merger. UAL guys in the know must be p!ssing themselves while laughing at how the CAL MEC is as useless as t!ts on a bull. I am disgusted that I am a part of a pilot group that elected any of our t-bags to a union position.
At least the merger committee and negotiating committee are under adult supervision!
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Old 10-17-2010, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by intrepidcv11 View Post
After reading the bullish!t our ENTIRE MEC pulled this week, I expect to wave the white flag in this merger. UAL guys in the know must be p!ssing themselves while laughing at how the CAL MEC is as useless as t!ts on a bull. I am disgusted that I am a part of a pilot group that elected any of our t-bags to a union position.
First, no one should have to wave a white flag in this merger.

Second, how dare you lay claim that your CAL MEC is more dysfunctional than ours. Fights and police from yesteryear, recalls, political infighting, and forum slander appear at times to be the rules of the road. Such a bargain brought to you for only 1.95 % of your pay.
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Originally Posted by Fritzthepilot View Post
how dare you lay claim that your CAL MEC is more dysfunctional than ours.
just waiting for the look on fritz's face once someone has the cajones to repost Council 171 Secretary-Treasurer Introligator's, 12 page "hotel abuse, trip loss and sex scandal" expose.

"Wow, you were right. Maybe you're ALPA is worse than ours."

I'll be right back, gonna pop some popcorn.

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Old 10-17-2010, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by furloughforlife View Post
Originally Posted by iahflyr (over on "common ground")................

I'm not sure which one of you two dumbasses is worse. After seeing quotes like these, we're the ones who should be concerned about this merger. EWR presumes to speak for all 4700 former CAL pilots....and IAH flyer is cool with a small raise so that we don't hurt the company again. Keep up the good work fellas!
First off,fff, coming on here and calling people "dumbasses" really says a lot about you and your character. I'm not impressed. I have a captain friend here at CAL who looks very young and a few years ago he was in civilian clothes in one of our weather rooms when a senior F/O came in and started giving him a rash of crap and kept insinuating he was just a "lowly commuter pilot" . This captain kept his composure and just "went along with it". The next day, this SAME F/O showed up to work and guess who his captain was? Yep..........the same guy he belittled the day earlier. Poetic justice? Be careful who you call names/insult on this forum........it's a small world and could come back to haunt you someday. FWIW, I see and talk to a lot more CAL pilots than you do, so I do think I'm a bit more qualified to say something concerning them than you are.
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