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Old 08-23-2012 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Zonker
I don't know...I think the scabs and gummers are our worst enemies.
I disagree on the "gummers" comment. I've learned a lot, flying and otherwise, from the pilots I've flown with at UAL. There's always the 3% crowd, be it junior or senior.

When you talk about scabs, that is a whole different mindset all together.
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Old 08-23-2012 | 05:29 PM
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My response was to 47dog. His statement was not correct, the furloughed UAL pilots flying at CAL are NOT considered "new hires". The simple fact is he's flying on the CAL side of the house. If he were a "new hire" he would have no heath insurance for 6 months, serve a 12 month probation and get paid $31.18 per hour (the UAL first year pay is $32.61) Hence my statement.

Your right, infighting does no good. Our common enemy is Jlo and his band of idiots.

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So what are they then? They are not "new hires" , or "on property" according to you. They are NOT "recalled"...
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Old 08-23-2012 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
So what are they then? They are not "new hires" , or "on property" according to you. They are NOT "recalled"...
"Pylots"???
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Old 08-23-2012 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
So what are they then? They are not "new hires" , or "on property" according to you. They are NOT "recalled"...
Good God, you guys like to argue just for the sake of arguing. You can consider yourselves whatever you want.

I am done with this conversation.

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Old 08-23-2012 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by liquid
Good God, you guys like to argue just for the sake of arguing. You can consider yourselves whatever you want.

I am done with this conversation.

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No, just trying to figure out what your take on it is.
But since you are done with the conversation...
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Old 08-24-2012 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Old UCAL CA
Disagree with that. This particular endeavor is still a personal choice.

From the relative quiet of an "upper 10%" perspective, you guys are truly your own worst enemies. This notion of "somebody else's fault" must be a GenX thing.
You're so right old guy. Those Damn kids - always complaining...
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Old 08-24-2012 | 05:44 AM
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Not totally familiar with the CAL Colloquialism "Gummer". What group is that?
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Old 08-24-2012 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by A320
Not totally familiar with the CAL Colloquialism "Gummer". What group is that?
Those fine elderly pilots who have lost their teeth due to age.
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Old 08-24-2012 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
I disagree on the "gummers" comment. I've learned a lot, flying and otherwise, from the pilots I've flown with at UAL. There's always the 3% crowd, be it junior or senior.

When you talk about scabs, that is a whole different mindset all together.
In terms of your career earnings and when you'll be able to retire, they sure aren't doing you any favors.
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Old 08-24-2012 | 11:34 AM
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While age 65 was no doubt a huge Christmas present for the guys who made the deadline, our current situation can hardly be blamed on them. I wonder how many guys hurling invective would have voluntarily quit at age 60 if they were in the same situation? My guess is very few.

As mentioned earlier, focus your attention and ire on El Hefe and the corporation which has amassed 9 Billion largely because of the pilots bankruptcy contract.

James is voting No.
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