A320

Quick question. Are CAL line holders subject to reassigned additional flying when you land at your home base at the end of a trip?

bkaz

The monthly caps are 89 hours for the 767, 777, 747, and 95 hours for the Airbus. On the bus, all deadhead time counts toward the cap. On the other fleets, deadhead time is counted at 1 hour toward the cap for every two flown. No flying 95 hours with 30 hrs of deadhead.

Reserves in intl fleets do have movable days off, their immovable days are called holy days. I'm not certain, but I think they have 6 holy day in the month. This applies to all 747 and 777 bases, and the 767 in ORD and IAD. Canada, Mexico, Latin America, and Caribbean flying is considered domestic under the UAL contract.

If you are unable to get 9 hrs behind the door on layovers, you contact scheduling with a time you will be leaving the room.

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SlickMachine

Yes, if you are a limp Richard. Typically this happens by either a chief pilot or crew tracker (no one else has the authority) who meets you in the jetway while you are finishing your trip and informs you that you have been junior manned. The proper response to this is "I am unavailable for that assignment." and nothing else. There are plenty who just take the assignment and take it in the shorts.

EWR73FO

Good stuff. Keep it coming. Do the FA's have the same rest rules as the pilots? If your time is changed due to rest, will the FA's be as well? Reason I'm asking is our show time within a pairing is 30 min for pilots and 45 for FA's but we mostly depart the hotel together when showing for the next leg in the trip.

How do you do your crew meals? I've heard everything from first class on every leg to ordering from home before the trip begins.

Short Bus Drive

Don't remember about the F/A's. But what I thought was "cool" was you can go into the pairing on the computer, and request the type of meal; Kosher, Indian, hot/cold, etc.
BUT, on the narrow body I believe it had to be over a certain amount of flight/ duty time...?
Sorry, I really don't remember, but the "order from home" just reminded me of the way we can choose the meal type.
Carry on...

Airhoss

Neither is true,

We used to have a special meal request. Via unimatic you could choose, for instance, I always chose lighter choice chicken or fish as I don't do well with to many carbs trying to maintain my bikini body and all. They also had some others choices like Hindu, Diabetic (I know) and some others.

Co-worker Jeff unilaterally took the meal choice option away several months ago.

Now we get whatever the first class meal is. But it is not on every leg there is a matrix of which I am not 100% sure of, that allows for a meal. I.E. if the departure is before a certain time in the AM you get a breakfast meal. If the flight is over a certain length you get a lunch or diner meal if you've been on duty for X amount of time without an adequate length stop over you get a meal.

Now back when I was first flying the 777 on some international legs, Narita to the USA for instance, when you checked into the hotel you would fill out a meal order for your leg home. But that was discontinued a long time ago.

chuckyt1

These caps can be reduced by checking the "Volunteer to Reduce Max Credit", (I think that's it, I'm on reserve and don't have the option).

If this box is checked your line will only be built to 87/89 hours.

As for the crew meals, there are still choices, just not as many.

SoCentralRain

Sonny knows how to properly capitalize.

And no, I'm NOT loving that "hard won" scope section. My family and I thank you for your compassion.

Neither I nor any other L-UAL pilot will make light of L-CAL's better scope.

capt. Whiteford chose to "save" the UAL A fund by caving on 70 seaters. We all know how that worked out. I didn't have one syllable of say in the matter when that side letter was signed in May 2003. I was already well into that wonderful respite known as furlough #1 when he agreed to that.

So huzzah to you and the L-CAL guys for your scope.

My point made clear on other threads was that as subsidiary groups, L-UAL and L-CAL are much further apart now after what Jay Pierce did just 9 days ago to upset status quo. Divide and conquer. He forced our two groups to play directly into management's greedy, grubby hands by being ticked with each other. Some unity. If anybody thinks a JCBA is going to happen any time in 2012, they're delusional.

Really, skipper, nothing sucks as hard as a 100% pay cut. Oh wait, yeah. A second one. That's worse. And to know that my recall to UAL is that much further away because of what Pierce did is sickening.

I think I'll join Sonny for a cold beverage. I need one now. :: disgusted ::

SCR

iadfo

I did this post a while back so its cut and paste, but it pretty much sums up the reserve system comparison.

Someone else on the board shared a CAL contract with me and I spent some time reading the scheduling and reserve section. The following observations are a comparison to UA reserve for UA pilots interested in going there when the offer comes.

-The CAL guys on this forum are absolutely correct when they say their reserve system sucks.

-All reserves are short call (Three hours to push instead of 4) except the top 25% unless they want it. (LC= 9hr to push instead of 13@ UA) All reserves are LC at UA until converted.(max 7 per month and you are bypassed after 5)

-Assignments are made in inverse seniority order (with many caveats) vs strict FIFO @ UA

-4 movable RDOs a month VS 0 @ UA

-You are bypassed for an assignment if you have less than 4.5 hours remaining to guarantee for someone who has flown less.

-Long call reserves are only released from phone availability for the 9 hours prior to their show time vs released when assigned for UA.

-Unlimited SC conversions for CAL long call reserves, VS 7 for UA. (you do get 1 hr of pay for each conversion beyond two at cal)

- SC reserves can be given phone availability window prior to scheduled show time.

CAL guys please correct me if I got any of this wrong, I'm just trying to highlight some of the major differences in UA reserve to help them make an informed decision. I'm not saying UA reserve is wonderful, it just sucks less.

SlickMachine

Long call is 9 hours to show, not push. I I know I know,,,, that changes everything.

You mention at UAL they can convert you to short call up to 7 times. Does that mean 7 days of being converted or 7 instances? At CAL, for the one hour increase for conversion, it has to happen on more than two INSTANCES, not just days, which sucks even worse.