Why should I call your mec chairman? His actions speak louder than words. Muck raking, prejudices on my behalf? Who tried to block a grievance filing?

 

My point is your throwing out blanket statements while not being to inclined to look in the mirror (in a pilot group sense) and see the same that you accuse others of.

 

Yes, there are some who thought profit sharing was a reach since it was not in your contract at the time. But the general consensus was Jay did his job by getting us money, regardless how it was obtained. That lends to an all about me attitude. If that is a blanket statement, then I stand by my words. "I trust/hope that it is not pervasive throughout the entire pilot rank at sCAL" is not a blanket statement since I fully realize there are those who do not hold those sentiments.

Back to the original question, why block a grievance attempt? Can't wait for the depositions.

 

It's easy for you to say he's blocking it, didn't you say in a older post it was a group? Which is it tracking? Go ahead throw stuff out there (muck raking)... If he is blocking it in your opinion, why not call him ? afraid of the truth or afraid of calling him and having someone with a different opinion stand up to you...I can see you don't like it.... Sure as hell I'd go to the source rather than toss out crap.... Flame away... Back to the question, Why block a grievance attempt? ...Pick up the phone and ask him...

 

Like I said, he's your mec chairman. He doesn't answer to me, he answers to you. Due to Pierce, we had to go to arbitration to proceed with the grievance. Why is it important to block a grievance being filed? (a rhetorical question)

 

Your whole argument would hold water if you simply stated, I think Jay is blocking a grievance... I called him to ask why and he stated....... or I called him and he wouldn't return the call or email.... or he said to me I represent the cal guys not you.... Looks like your too lazy to seek answers to your own questions... Hint,do your own work!!!seek answers from the people you accuse of things, why is it important to you if he is doing so( or as you said he is)? whats your gripe anyway? Let us know the truth when you find out from him....

 

Hey special, I think your merger committee had to have a court order for us to get information... Kind of blocking too? Wonder why ? maybe I'll call them... Nah, this crap is getting old....

 

Yes it is getting old. Merger info like personal wage information. Gmab.

Simple fact is our grievance attempt against the company was initially obstructed. Fortunately the arbitrator saw through that and has allowed our grievance to proceed. Jay is not mine but yours, and his actions have spoken louder than words.

 

I'm missing something here. How were UAL pilots actually harmed? Did they not get a profit sharing check and a bigger one than CAL pilots as well? What exactly does the UAL mec hope to get out of this grievance? Ahhhhhh unity.

 

I think the profit sharing deal was the thing that got us on the road dis-unity, resulting eventually in a lot of TA yes votes from pilots who figured they had to slam the brakes on a process that just might have resulted in a better TA (98% strike vote and we take the first offer?). What big, bad deal did we leverage this for? A resolution to a 757 (2 of them) grievance that, if settled, would have resulted in a small fine.

We didn't bargain for it. The company wanted us to get profit sharing so they could do the happy dance with Wall Street on Feb 14, and we played right into their hands for 1/3 of a monthly paycheck. The grievance gave them plausible deniability.

Would have been better to, in unity, say thank you no, we'd like a TA now, not later. Talk about the "time value of money" we could have been under the new pay scales nine months ago more than making up for the profit sharing.