CAL System Bid released
03-07-2012 | 02:51 PM
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From: guppy CA
Section 25, Part 14, Para B:
Open time within BES will be assigned in the following order:
1. To a Lineholder who is on Company Business Available status.
2. To a Lineholder on RX duty status.
3. To a Lineholder on RA duty status.
4. To an available Reserve.
5. In seniority order to available Lineholders who have indicated that they desire
to be Junior Manned.
6. Junior assigned to a Lineholder in reverse order of seniority (Junior Manning). Junior Manning will be implemented for open Trip coverage only when priorities 1 through 5 have been exhausted, or within three (3) hours of scheduled departure time. A Lineholder who will be required to drop a Trip Pairing which would generate an additional Junior Manning requirement will be bypassed in the first attempt at coverage. Crew Scheduling, when notifying a pilot of such an assignment will clearly state that he is being Junior Manned. All assignments made under the provisions of this Paragraph will be fully documented by Crew Scheduling and forwarded to the System Chief Pilot within twenty-four (24) hours, with an information copy to the affected pilot, the Association, and his Base Chief Pilot within forty-eight (48) hours.
7. After the above steps have been exhausted, a pilot may be used in a lower Status.
1. To a Lineholder who is on Company Business Available status.
2. To a Lineholder on RX duty status.
3. To a Lineholder on RA duty status.
4. To an available Reserve.
5. In seniority order to available Lineholders who have indicated that they desire
to be Junior Manned.
6. Junior assigned to a Lineholder in reverse order of seniority (Junior Manning). Junior Manning will be implemented for open Trip coverage only when priorities 1 through 5 have been exhausted, or within three (3) hours of scheduled departure time. A Lineholder who will be required to drop a Trip Pairing which would generate an additional Junior Manning requirement will be bypassed in the first attempt at coverage. Crew Scheduling, when notifying a pilot of such an assignment will clearly state that he is being Junior Manned. All assignments made under the provisions of this Paragraph will be fully documented by Crew Scheduling and forwarded to the System Chief Pilot within twenty-four (24) hours, with an information copy to the affected pilot, the Association, and his Base Chief Pilot within forty-eight (48) hours.
7. After the above steps have been exhausted, a pilot may be used in a lower Status.
My understanding is that due to LCAL manning, it doesn't take much to hit item 7.
03-07-2012 | 02:57 PM
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If you say so. However, #367 on LCAL's seniority list just moved from a 787 CA slot to a 737 CA slot. He traded his seniority to be #2 in his base on the 737.
03-07-2012 | 03:59 PM
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When talking reserve quality of life, 737 is the absolute lowest, period, nothing else is close. I have already said I don't care if this means I will never upgrade, but I will never sit reserve on the 737 the way its structured now. Off reserve is a different story.
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03-07-2012 | 04:00 PM
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Its a fact when it comes to reserves QOL and different equipment, The beauty of movement...you can have choices, QOL, money or both....not sure what his reasons may have been but the seniority system worked.
03-07-2012 | 04:39 PM
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#2 in his base will not be sitting reserve. I guess he might choose to once but not again after that experience.
When talking reserve quality of life, 737 is the absolute lowest, period, nothing else is close. I have already said I don't care if this means I will never upgrade, but I will never sit reserve on the 737 the way its structured now. Off reserve is a different story.
When talking reserve quality of life, 737 is the absolute lowest, period, nothing else is close. I have already said I don't care if this means I will never upgrade, but I will never sit reserve on the 737 the way its structured now. Off reserve is a different story.
03-07-2012 | 04:56 PM
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From: Boeing's Plastic Jet Button Pusher - 787
Do you understand that person in question is only staffed on the B787 "on paper"??
His actual/present position is 82% on the B777 in EWR. Bidding DEN puts that same person at 5% on the B737. If that move means not having to commute, and sitting #2 in base, to each their own. 'Some' weigh QOL in different aspects, and NOT having to commute while sitting 'senior' in base may be his zin.
In the end, this is JUST a SnapShot, it's far from being set in stone. Don't know how L-UA did biz, but if this is your first rodeo with CAL's SnapShots, things will NO DOUBT be fluid till the Monet is published on the official closing.
Sit tight.
His actual/present position is 82% on the B777 in EWR. Bidding DEN puts that same person at 5% on the B737. If that move means not having to commute, and sitting #2 in base, to each their own. 'Some' weigh QOL in different aspects, and NOT having to commute while sitting 'senior' in base may be his zin.
In the end, this is JUST a SnapShot, it's far from being set in stone. Don't know how L-UA did biz, but if this is your first rodeo with CAL's SnapShots, things will NO DOUBT be fluid till the Monet is published on the official closing.
Sit tight.
03-07-2012 | 06:04 PM
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I notice this has been popping up as bizarre on a few boards. Let's see big plane with commute or small plane with no commute? Hmm I'd gladly take a pay hit rather then commute out of Denver. Ual has the same situation with the SEA base. QOL to me means no commuting.
03-07-2012 | 06:33 PM
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From: A320/A319/B737 Sys Acft Maint Controller
This might not be pertinint to the subject but WHAT is vthe Stencil that's applied to the CAL 757 below the N Number "operated by CALA014"?? And why is it being Applies to 8194?? Continental doesn't even FLY 747-422's So is this a Statement or a mistake?? So Who IS going to fly those Military Charters and shouldn't they bring back furloghed UAL crews to fly that airplane?? The Guys called Me about the Decal. Do you guys have ALPA Locals??
03-07-2012 | 07:16 PM
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From: Bigfoot
You're referencing the Airline Operating Certificate, CALA014A. The Continental certificate is the certificate of the combined airline. The United certificate was inferior, just like those ratted out airplanes you turn wrenches on. I kid I kid. But seriously, that's what you're seeing. :-)
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