April 30th released date?
04-17-2012, 04:23 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Blah, Blah, Blah my UAL breathren. Yes I like the message but I too am tired of the self-congratulatory responses. This tone is great and I'm on board but please stop all the BS grandstanding.
I'll be more than happy to strike side-by side with you any day of the week but please tone down the constant CAL bashing for all of our sakes.
I'll be more than happy to strike side-by side with you any day of the week but please tone down the constant CAL bashing for all of our sakes.
04-17-2012, 04:41 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot
Pilotbiffster...................THIS is exactly what I'm talking about. You won't find me crossing a picket line EVER, so as 757 Driver said, knock of all the grandstanding. The constant bashing really is getting old. I've seen on other forums how much some of you guys kiss some of our slickties butts. I'm not impressed.
Then what? Is there a clause in your contract that allows you to honor a picket line? Would the CAL pilots continue to fly their legacy routes thereby benefiting the company as a whole?
In all honesty, the lack of unity/communication is deafening producing many more questions than answers. Are the LUAL pilots going to to the heavy lifting that JP(not the CAL pilots) refuses to do?
04-17-2012, 04:54 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
A very very hypothetical question. JP doesn't support the LUAL MC's position of release. The NMB somehow finds it in their heart to release the LUAL pilots if they request it. Thirty days of negotiations doesn't bear fruit and the LUAL pilots are free to engage in self help.
Then what? Is there a clause in your contract that allows you to honor a picket line? Would the CAL pilots continue to fly their legacy routes thereby benefiting the company as a whole?
In all honesty, the lack of unity/communication is deafening producing many more questions than answers. Are the LUAL pilots going to to the heavy lifting that JP(not the CAL pilots) refuses to do?
Then what? Is there a clause in your contract that allows you to honor a picket line? Would the CAL pilots continue to fly their legacy routes thereby benefiting the company as a whole?
In all honesty, the lack of unity/communication is deafening producing many more questions than answers. Are the LUAL pilots going to to the heavy lifting that JP(not the CAL pilots) refuses to do?
The big question is if JP doesn't doesn't get on board, how long will he remain at the helm at LCAL? Not very long. There are enough CAL pilots ****ed off to the point of release as well. I don't see JP not following the same route as JH but if he chooses not to do so, it becomes the CAL pilots responsibility to act accordingly. As it stands, our current contract does not allow for the flying of struck work.
04-17-2012, 05:05 AM
#35
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Originally Posted by EWR73FO
The big question is if JP doesn't doesn't get on board, how long will he remain at the helm at LCAL?...
The only thing "joint" under current conditions is the JNC and TPA.
04-17-2012, 07:56 AM
#39
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Originally Posted by XCAL
If it turns out that this was not a coordinated message by both MEC Chairs; they have both failed! One making the other look stupid. Take your pick whom.
One. A MC who has seen the company repeatedly refuse to bargain in good faith.
Two. A MC who categorizes negotiations as progressing while the amendable date has passed by SEVERAL YEARS. (and why?)
Yeah, I'll take my pick
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