UFB you would say that. You have never walked in my shoes, and now you will vote YES on a substandard contract for a few pieces of silver...and a SLAP into the FACE OF FURLOUGHED PILOTS.

It AINT ALL ABOUT ME ME ME ME ME ME ME!

Actually, there should be a break or comma between SUNY Farmingdale and Aviation High School.

As far as "show some respect".. I have never just come on here and slammed anyone. Problem with "anonymous" posters is they can post anything and everything without fact checking.

Case in point, JSLED posted that Reserves now get 12:45 between rest periods.
I pointed out, exactly in the TA..where we do not.

Alot of guys are going to start coming out of the word work to show the "good" things of the TA (and yes, there are a few nuggets in there).. but posting false info does no one but the YES crowd any good.

Do I expect everything I want in this TA. NOPE.. I have already posted that I expected the Scope section to be a concession. But ALPA National has shown the way>.

Our Union requested that we tell them what we wanted (back in 08). They have also done Wilson Polling a few times. That became our Proposal. Lot of stuff I liked, a few I didn't.
But now, what I see is either concessions or status quo with a few gains.

Right now, someone is starting a webpage to dissect the TA. Once it's up, it will be easy to see the differences between UAL, CAL, JCBA and DAL.

Motch

PS> The ALPA Comparison document does a great job of showing us being equal and higher than Delta. Problem is, they are using Oct 2012 as their starting point and don't show yearly raise comparison.
Looking at it... it's easy to say "Hay, we're gonna be paid more than Delta"!
Slow down. We trail Delta until 2015.. and finally exceed them in 2016. Of course, they will probably have a new contract then.
And our rates go till 2017.. meaning we will probably be working under this TA (if it passes) and rates in 2018-2019.

So you would stay?

Sled

12:45 between rest periods? That doesn't even make sense. I already answered your post. Yes, a guy sitting at home on short call can be called and given a trip that shows in 10 hrs. How does that dispute the 12:45 rest after blocking in from a flying assignment? You need to educate yourself on this contract, Motch. There is lots of material on the website. Try the CrewsNews. I have read them all. And the Contract Comparison clearly shows yearly rate comparisons, so I am not sure what you are talking about.

Sled

I thought CAL didn't hire guys without a college education?

No one needs the NMB to make a deal, stop with the scare tactics. If Smisek thinks his operation will hum along smoothly while he drags his feet, I say drag away.

The DALPAoids were telling us the same thing about our TA. They swore the NMB would park us for a loong time!

And they will if you don't behave and vote yes......wait, what? ;)

"3-I-5 A Pilot shall be paid on the first (1st) and sixteenth (16th) of the month for the preceding Bid Period. The gross pay on the first (1st) shall be one half (1/2) of his MPG for the preceding Bid Period and the gross pay on the sixteenth (16th) shall be his calculated earnings from the preceding Bid Period less the gross pay received on the first (1st)."

No change for UAL. Is CAL different?

Sled