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11-12-2012, 09:07 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by jsled
Not being sarcastic. At first glance, I'll give the TA a B. Solid 80%. Good enough to pass and then get on with the seniority list. That's my opinion and prediction. Only time will tell.
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11-12-2012, 10:06 PM
#22
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Position: Le Bus
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Originally Posted by jsled
Not being sarcastic. At first glance, I'll give the TA a B. Solid 80%. Good enough to pass and then get on with the seniority list. That's my opinion and prediction. Only time will tell.
Sled
Sled
11-12-2012, 10:10 PM
#23
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Joined APC: May 2012
Position: CAP A320
Posts: 300
F'n Furious! UAL furloughees get less longvty
Originally Posted by 47dog
No vote. Period. UAL furloughees screwed again.
11-12-2012, 10:18 PM
#24
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Posts: 382
Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer
losing full longevity is one thing, but this is utter bs to actually go backwards. I had to have this clarified by the lax lec chairman to see if i got this right. According to the ta, after sli integration, we cannot have a pay longevity that is longer than the next scal pilot above us (which will be a 2008 cal hire for most of us). I have over 6 years of pay longevity and will now fall to 4 years according to the lax lec chair. How the hell can that happen? He says the cal mec voted for no full restoration, of course, but how can they legally set us backwards on pay longevity. Seniority is one thing, such as getting stapled to the bottom, but to lose time accrued for pay is a first for any pilot group. There has to be a mechanism to prevent this or is that called a 'lawsuit'?
11-12-2012, 11:17 PM
#25
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Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer
Losing full longevity is one thing, but this is utter BS to actually go backwards. I had to have this clarified by the LAX LEC Chairman to see if I got this right. According to the TA, after SLI integration, we cannot have a Pay Longevity that is longer than the next sCAL pilot above us (which will be a 2008 CAL hire for most of us). I have over 6 years of Pay Longevity and will now fall to 4 years according to the LAX LEC Chair. How the hell can that happen? He says the CAL MEC voted for no full restoration, of course, but how can they legally set us backwards on Pay longevity. Seniority is one thing, such as getting stapled to the bottom, but to lose time accrued for Pay is a first for any pilot group. There has to be a mechanism to prevent this or is that called a 'lawsuit'?
Make it our mission to fix it no matter how long it takes....plenty of 83CAL and 570 language...why not 2173/1473 in the next one!
11-13-2012, 12:15 AM
#27
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Originally Posted by jsled
Not being sarcastic. At first glance, I'll give the TA a B. Solid 80%. Good enough to pass and then get on with the seniority list. That's my opinion and prediction. Only time will tell.
Sled
Sled
11-13-2012, 04:25 AM
#29
CH46 Pilot to the Stars
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: Furloughed
Posts: 61
I are a Marine, so all these words, words, words confuse Mongo.
I think this says we get boned on seniority list integration AND don't get pay credit for the 7+ years many of us have been out on the street. Soooooooo, we'd get stapled AND not get 12th year pay for the 18 months we'll get on the property before the next round of furloughs?......Mongo no like.....
Looks like I'll be growing old as Cubicle Willy, the airline pilot that was.....that is until I get furloughed from my government job after we plummet over the fiscal cliff and become Sequestration Nation.
<<Sigh>>
I think this says we get boned on seniority list integration AND don't get pay credit for the 7+ years many of us have been out on the street. Soooooooo, we'd get stapled AND not get 12th year pay for the 18 months we'll get on the property before the next round of furloughs?......Mongo no like.....
Looks like I'll be growing old as Cubicle Willy, the airline pilot that was.....that is until I get furloughed from my government job after we plummet over the fiscal cliff and become Sequestration Nation.
<<Sigh>>
11-13-2012, 04:29 AM
#30
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Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: 737 CA
Posts: 2,750
Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer
Losing full longevity is one thing, but this is utter BS to actually go backwards. I had to have this clarified by the LAX LEC Chairman to see if I got this right. According to the TA, after SLI integration, we cannot have a Pay Longevity that is longer than the next sCAL pilot above us (which will be a 2008 CAL hire for most of us). I have over 6 years of Pay Longevity and will now fall to 4 years according to the LAX LEC Chair. How the hell can that happen? He says the CAL MEC voted for no full restoration, of course, but how can they legally set us backwards on Pay longevity. Seniority is one thing, such as getting stapled to the bottom, but to lose time accrued for Pay is a first for any pilot group. There has to be a mechanism to prevent this or is that called a 'lawsuit'?
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