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11-12-2012 | 09:07 PM
#21
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11-12-2012 | 09:57 PM
#22
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saw the "crew news" information on the the TA, didn't read the full multi hundred page TA yet. It will pass. 51%, it will get it. Good, bad, fair it doesn't matter it will pass. I am willing to bet, keep it fair i was furloughed and reading how the bonus will be calculated I won't be rolling in it.(not stating fair or not, just as is.)
11-12-2012 | 10:06 PM
#23
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From: Le Bus
I'll give you a solid B for BONEHEAD! *** are you thinking? Did you glance at what it does to the furloughed guys? You're a disgrace to the uniform.
11-12-2012 | 10:10 PM
#24
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Joined: May 2012
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From: CAP A320
F'n Furious! UAL furloughees get less longvty
Losing full longevity is one thing, but this is utter BS to actually go backwards. I had to have this clarified by the LAX LEC Chairman to see if I got this right. According to the TA, after SLI integration, we cannot have a Pay Longevity that is longer than the next sCAL pilot above us (which will be a 2008 CAL hire for most of us). I have over 6 years of Pay Longevity and will now fall to 4 years according to the LAX LEC Chair. How the hell can that happen? He says the CAL MEC voted for no full restoration, of course, but how can they legally set us backwards on Pay longevity. Seniority is one thing, such as getting stapled to the bottom, but to lose time accrued for Pay is a first for any pilot group. There has to be a mechanism to prevent this or is that called a 'lawsuit'?
11-12-2012 | 10:18 PM
#25
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From: Le Bus
losing full longevity is one thing, but this is utter bs to actually go backwards. I had to have this clarified by the lax lec chairman to see if i got this right. According to the ta, after sli integration, we cannot have a pay longevity that is longer than the next scal pilot above us (which will be a 2008 cal hire for most of us). I have over 6 years of pay longevity and will now fall to 4 years according to the lax lec chair. How the hell can that happen? He says the cal mec voted for no full restoration, of course, but how can they legally set us backwards on pay longevity. Seniority is one thing, such as getting stapled to the bottom, but to lose time accrued for pay is a first for any pilot group. There has to be a mechanism to prevent this or is that called a 'lawsuit'?
11-12-2012 | 11:17 PM
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Losing full longevity is one thing, but this is utter BS to actually go backwards. I had to have this clarified by the LAX LEC Chairman to see if I got this right. According to the TA, after SLI integration, we cannot have a Pay Longevity that is longer than the next sCAL pilot above us (which will be a 2008 CAL hire for most of us). I have over 6 years of Pay Longevity and will now fall to 4 years according to the LAX LEC Chair. How the hell can that happen? He says the CAL MEC voted for no full restoration, of course, but how can they legally set us backwards on Pay longevity. Seniority is one thing, such as getting stapled to the bottom, but to lose time accrued for Pay is a first for any pilot group. There has to be a mechanism to prevent this or is that called a 'lawsuit'?
Make it our mission to fix it no matter how long it takes....plenty of 83CAL and 570 language...why not 2173/1473 in the next one!
11-13-2012 | 12:15 AM
#28
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Plz don't ever talk smack about United of Old getting destroyed by CAL Flight Ops ever again. Calling this POS a B puts you squarely in Fred Abbott's BOHICA zone.
11-13-2012 | 04:25 AM
#30
CH46 Pilot to the Stars
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From: Furloughed
I are a Marine, so all these words, words, words confuse Mongo.
I think this says we get boned on seniority list integration AND don't get pay credit for the 7+ years many of us have been out on the street. Soooooooo, we'd get stapled AND not get 12th year pay for the 18 months we'll get on the property before the next round of furloughs?......Mongo no like.....
Looks like I'll be growing old as Cubicle Willy, the airline pilot that was.....that is until I get furloughed from my government job after we plummet over the fiscal cliff and become Sequestration Nation.
<<Sigh>>
I think this says we get boned on seniority list integration AND don't get pay credit for the 7+ years many of us have been out on the street. Soooooooo, we'd get stapled AND not get 12th year pay for the 18 months we'll get on the property before the next round of furloughs?......Mongo no like.....
Looks like I'll be growing old as Cubicle Willy, the airline pilot that was.....that is until I get furloughed from my government job after we plummet over the fiscal cliff and become Sequestration Nation.
<<Sigh>>
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