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11-13-2012 | 05:40 AM
#41
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From: B737 IAH
I just want to make sure I'm understanding you....... I was hired at UAL in 99 and have 6 years and a few months of active service at UAL. If this TA is voted in I go to 4 year pay, down from the 7 year pay I would be at now. When the SLI is finished I might find myself junior to a 2008 CAL hire and remain at 4 years of longevity.
I can understand how I might eat a giant **** sandwich with the SLI but to say that my longevity is tied to the CAL pilot senior to me on the new SLI is the lettuce and tomato on my giant *** sandwich.
I know that I am going to get screwed in the SLI but to actually have longevity taken away from me that I already have is crazy! I was hired at UAL over 13 years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You sound like you are ok with this part of the TA because I get a raise from 7th year UAL current pay of $86 an hour to the TA rate of $112 an hour on 4th year pay.
I can already smell a class action lawsuit brewing.
I can understand how I might eat a giant **** sandwich with the SLI but to say that my longevity is tied to the CAL pilot senior to me on the new SLI is the lettuce and tomato on my giant *** sandwich.
I know that I am going to get screwed in the SLI but to actually have longevity taken away from me that I already have is crazy! I was hired at UAL over 13 years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You sound like you are ok with this part of the TA because I get a raise from 7th year UAL current pay of $86 an hour to the TA rate of $112 an hour on 4th year pay.
I can already smell a class action lawsuit brewing.
Well said. Couldn't agree more. How is it possible they actually can take away longevity?
Just vote no.
Eric
Jan 2000 hire
Last edited by UAL T38 Phlyer; 11-13-2012 at 12:22 PM. Reason: TOS in quote
11-13-2012 | 05:40 AM
#42
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2006
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From: 737 CA
Look. I am not going to argue with every swinging *** here about this TA. It's not eye watering, GREAT. But it is adequate and in many ways industry leading. It should pass as it did both MECs
Reminds me of an old joke: The neg chair says " in our new contract, we only work on Wednesdays. Any questions?"
A line pilot raises his hand....." You mean we have to work EVERY ####### Wednesday???!!!"
Sled
Reminds me of an old joke: The neg chair says " in our new contract, we only work on Wednesdays. Any questions?"
A line pilot raises his hand....." You mean we have to work EVERY ####### Wednesday???!!!"
Sled
Last edited by UAL T38 Phlyer; 11-13-2012 at 12:31 PM. Reason: TOS
11-13-2012 | 05:46 AM
#44
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,415
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From: B-777 left
Look. I am not going to argue with every swinging *** here about this TA. It's not eye watering, GREAT. But it is adequate and in many ways industry leading. It should pass as it did both MECs
Reminds me of an old joke: The neg chair says " in our new contract, we only work on Wednesdays. Any questions?"
A line pilot raises his hand....." You mean we have to work EVERY ####### Wednesday???!!!"
Sled
Reminds me of an old joke: The neg chair says " in our new contract, we only work on Wednesdays. Any questions?"
A line pilot raises his hand....." You mean we have to work EVERY ####### Wednesday???!!!"
Sled
Last edited by UAL T38 Phlyer; 11-13-2012 at 12:31 PM. Reason: TOS in Qote
11-13-2012 | 05:57 AM
#45
Line Holder
Joined: Dec 2007
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From: iah 73 fo
You will b below deltas and life will suck especially when inflation eats your tiny raise!!
Last edited by UAL T38 Phlyer; 11-13-2012 at 12:32 PM.
11-13-2012 | 05:59 AM
#46
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 149
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From: 30 West
Look. I am not going to argue with every swinging *** here about this TA. It's not eye watering, GREAT. But it is adequate and in many ways industry leading. It should pass as it did both MECs
Reminds me of an old joke: The neg chair says " in our new contract, we only work on Wednesdays. Any questions?"
A line pilot raises his hand....." You mean we have to work EVERY ####### Wednesday???!!!"
Sled
Reminds me of an old joke: The neg chair says " in our new contract, we only work on Wednesdays. Any questions?"
A line pilot raises his hand....." You mean we have to work EVERY ####### Wednesday???!!!"
Sled
You are what's wrong with United.......... the worst part is I know who you are and have known you for many years! Thanks Jason.......
LearJet Driver
Last edited by UAL T38 Phlyer; 11-13-2012 at 12:34 PM. Reason: TOS in Quote
11-13-2012 | 06:05 AM
#47
Line Holder
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
From: iah 73 fo
Look. I am not going to argue with every swinging *** here about this TA. It's not eye watering, GREAT. But it is adequate and in many ways industry leading. It should pass as it did both MECs
Reminds me of an old joke: The neg chair says " in our new contract, we only work on Wednesdays. Any questions?"
A line pilot raises his hand....." You mean we have to work EVERY ####### Wednesday???!!!"
Sled
Reminds me of an old joke: The neg chair says " in our new contract, we only work on Wednesdays. Any questions?"
A line pilot raises his hand....." You mean we have to work EVERY ####### Wednesday???!!!"
Sled
Last edited by UAL T38 Phlyer; 11-13-2012 at 12:39 PM. Reason: Flamebait
11-13-2012 | 06:11 AM
#48
Line Holder
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 33
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Reduced Longevity
I'm not saying that this MEC doesn't take special pride in sticking it to the early 2000 hires, but I've read the section in the TA and don't see how our longevity can be reduced. The section addresses adding longevity credit for time spent on furlough but the "application of such additional credit" is capped at the level of the next most senior sCAL pilot.
We know we'll get sold out again in the SLI and I was hoping to at least get recouped in years for pay, but I'm still not seeing how longevity gets reduced. If I'm wrong, then you can count me in as one more contributor to the law suit.
Gypsy
We know we'll get sold out again in the SLI and I was hoping to at least get recouped in years for pay, but I'm still not seeing how longevity gets reduced. If I'm wrong, then you can count me in as one more contributor to the law suit.
Gypsy
11-13-2012 | 06:47 AM
#50
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You mean except for the 40-63% pay raises? That's not a sharp stick in the eye. Besides, there are other gets here for us.
14 hr downtown layovers.
2 captain augment on long flights.
M5D...huge for Hi flying
1/3.5
Inc vac and training pay
Inc RSV guarantee
Pay premiums
Sled
14 hr downtown layovers.
2 captain augment on long flights.
M5D...huge for Hi flying
1/3.5
Inc vac and training pay
Inc RSV guarantee
Pay premiums
Sled
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