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11-13-2012 | 06:57 AM
#51
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I'm not saying that this MEC doesn't take special pride in sticking it to the early 2000 hires, but I've read the section in the TA and don't see how our longevity can be reduced. The section addresses adding longevity credit for time spent on furlough but the "application of such additional credit" is capped at the level of the next most senior sCAL pilot.
We know we'll get sold out again in the SLI and I was hoping to at least get recouped in years for pay, but I'm still not seeing how longevity gets reduced. If I'm wrong, then you can count me in as one more contributor to the law suit.
Gypsy
We know we'll get sold out again in the SLI and I was hoping to at least get recouped in years for pay, but I'm still not seeing how longevity gets reduced. If I'm wrong, then you can count me in as one more contributor to the law suit.
Gypsy
11-13-2012 | 07:04 AM
#52
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From: Furloughed A320 FO
It mentions in the contract about one movable reserve day, but then says global reserve has 6 immovable golden days off. What is the difference between basic reserve and global reserve? And the difference between one movable reserve day and 6 immovable golden days off? Are these two different types of reserve? Thanks.
11-13-2012 | 07:10 AM
#53
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look. I am not going to argue with every swinging here about this ta. It's not eye watering, great. But it is adequate and in many ways industry leading. It should pass as it did both mecs
reminds me of an old joke: The neg chair says " in our new contract, we only work on wednesdays. Any questions?"
a line pilot raises his hand....." you mean we have to work every ####### wednesday???!!!"
sled
reminds me of an old joke: The neg chair says " in our new contract, we only work on wednesdays. Any questions?"
a line pilot raises his hand....." you mean we have to work every ####### wednesday???!!!"
sled
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11-13-2012 | 07:13 AM
#54
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From: IAH 737 CA
It mentions in the contract about one movable reserve day, but then says global reserve has 6 immovable golden days off. What is the difference between basic reserve and global reserve? And the difference between one movable reserve day and 6 immovable golden days off? Are these two different types of reserve? Thanks.
11-13-2012 | 07:20 AM
#55
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From: 787 Capt.
Something needs to be clarified. It says that express block hours are tied to narrow body single aisle A/C at DOS. So as UAL parks 757s and potentially Busses the Express block hours will not be reduced because their block hours are based on ours at DOS. that's how I read it.
11-13-2012 | 07:44 AM
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Something needs to be clarified. It says that express block hours are tied to narrow body single aisle A/C at DOS. So as UAL parks 757s and potentially Busses the Express block hours will not be reduced because their block hours are based on ours at DOS. that's how I read it.
11-13-2012 | 07:45 AM
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11-13-2012 | 07:49 AM
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Losing full longevity is one thing, but this is utter BS to actually go backwards. I had to have this clarified by the LAX LEC Chairman to see if I got this right. According to the TA, after SLI integration, we cannot have a Pay Longevity that is longer than the next sCAL pilot above us (which will be a 2008 CAL hire for most of us). I have over 6 years of Pay Longevity and will now fall to 4 years according to the LAX LEC Chair. How the hell can that happen? He says the CAL MEC voted for no full restoration, of course, but how can they legally set us backwards on Pay longevity. Seniority is one thing, such as getting stapled to the bottom, but to lose time accrued for Pay is a first for any pilot group. There has to be a mechanism to prevent this or is that called a 'lawsuit'?
You are dead right, this sets you guys up to be the recipients of the worst seniority injustice in the history of mergers. The good news is you'll go junior to some of the most self serving little smart-aleck weasel nosed back stabbers in the industry (fast tracked Xjeters) if this passes. I think I may be a NO vote just on behalf of how bad the UALfurlough guys get raped. Then again my hunger strike for women's rights never really gained much momentum...
11-13-2012 | 07:54 AM
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