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Old 01-01-2013 | 05:46 AM
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After much rumbling and after having seen the initial drafts of the C & B a group calling themselves the United Pilots Union has made their efforts public knowledge. I have much to say on this effort. Preliminarily my thoughts are extremely negative. Will ALPA heed this as a wake up call to transparency and provide greater implementation of line pilot participation? Or is this effort worth pursuing? I know...same old story.

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Old 01-01-2013 | 05:56 AM
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Perhaps someone from the L-UAL side can give a brief synopsis of Andy Collins' prior involvement (or lack there of) in ALPA? Another Key player is a DC Bus Captain. Not sure if they want their name made public yet.

Bio information on these "leaders" is an absolute must. If we find they are previously disenfranchised or screaming minority pilots, UPU needs to be stonewalled. If however they are just normal people with line experience, minimal political animals and their hearts are in the right place, then maybe there is reason to lend them volunteer time and donate funds.
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Old 01-01-2013 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Bligh
After much rumbling and after having seen the initial drafts of the C & B a group calling themselves the United Pilots Union has made their efforts public knowledge. I have much to say on this effort. Preliminarily my thoughts are extremely negative. Will ALPA heed this as a wake up call to transparency and provide greater implementation of line pilot participation? Or is this effort worth pursuing? I know...same old story.

http://unitedpilotsunion.org
Well, their website is already down. Not impressed...
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Old 01-01-2013 | 06:00 AM
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U......PU.......does not sound right just to start with.....Stinks.......
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Old 01-01-2013 | 06:03 AM
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Well, their website is already down. Not impressed...
Yeah I see that. Very few of the sub pages were published yet anyhow. It's possible that they mistakenly went live with the site without realizing they had done so?
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Old 01-01-2013 | 06:21 AM
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Bad idea....IMO
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Old 01-01-2013 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxepr1
U......PU.......does not sound right just to start with.....Stinks.......
Could have gone with... I.A.U.P.
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Old 01-01-2013 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by uaav8r
Could have gone with... I.A.U.P.
Or I.C.U.P. !
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So, does this mean the next ALPA President will be a United guy?
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Old 01-01-2013 | 07:31 AM
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I have been gone from UAL for 4.5 years. In retrospect, I am more happy to be away from ALPA than UAL. I always wished we could $^$&t-can them all. I might also support that effort in the future.

However this is the here and now. In the here and now we need to finish the process of becoming ONE. That includes ALPA being part of the process. Any effort to derail that effort puts us all at risk of becoming another USAIR.

No matter how the ISL turns out, and it will not be catastrophic for any of us, we need to finish the process. Then if we want to vote the bums out I will vote yes.

I would like to thank the current "bums" for putting their differences aside and coming to an agreement for a TA. Without this all of our careers would have been decimated, same same the USAIR and America Worst pilots.
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