UAL Hiring Update
01-11-2013 | 05:28 AM
#51
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Originally Posted by gettinbumped
You might want to check the financials of CAL vs. UAL the year before the merger.
I actually did that about a year or so ago when all this "we bought you" and "we were better than you" was going on from both sides on this forum. I posted the financial comparisons on here. Both sides were actually comparable in cash flow, revenue, earnings, cash on hand, etc. despite what CAL pilots and UAL pilots want to believe. Neither airline was a runaway winner over the other or vice versa.
I couldn't tell you which thread I posted it on and don't know how to go about finding it again on here.
01-11-2013 | 08:13 AM
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[QUOTE=jsled;1327915]
I hope you get what you wish for but history has proven that aircraft orders are generally delayed many years past the anticipated delivery date(SEE 787). Your A350 will not be here in 2016. Bidding on that will be a moot point unless there is a fence, and that remains to be seen.
4 years past our amendable date we get a new contract. Wishful thinking that the SLI will be done in a timely manner and that mgmt will immediately allow bidding of any aircraft from either airlines' aircraft to the other. Gonna be more like our wonderful LOA26. We will be able to bid as one airline sometime after the SLI but incrementally IMO.
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Oh yeah. That's what we needed. More time. rUAL's much anticipated narrowbody order never materialized. Instead we got a merger announcement with an airline that already had new narrowbodies coming. So after 2 years, your solution is MORE TIME? big surprise. No Thanks. I am glad we voted in the contract. Clock is ticking. Just a matter of months now. get ready.
Sled
Oh yeah. That's what we needed. More time. rUAL's much anticipated narrowbody order never materialized. Instead we got a merger announcement with an airline that already had new narrowbodies coming. So after 2 years, your solution is MORE TIME? big surprise. No Thanks. I am glad we voted in the contract. Clock is ticking. Just a matter of months now. get ready.
Sled
I hope you get what you wish for but history has proven that aircraft orders are generally delayed many years past the anticipated delivery date(SEE 787). Your A350 will not be here in 2016. Bidding on that will be a moot point unless there is a fence, and that remains to be seen.
4 years past our amendable date we get a new contract. Wishful thinking that the SLI will be done in a timely manner and that mgmt will immediately allow bidding of any aircraft from either airlines' aircraft to the other. Gonna be more like our wonderful LOA26. We will be able to bid as one airline sometime after the SLI but incrementally IMO.
01-11-2013 | 08:51 AM
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The timing also coincided with unit funding cutbacks, and military leave guys are being forced back to their civilian jobs. In my squadron, I'm certain that most guys would still be on leave if the gravy train was still rollin'.
01-11-2013 | 10:00 AM
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For those of you salivating over the A-350, I doubt we'll ever see it.
I would however expect Boeing to maybe offer the 777X to us as a possible launch customer. In conjunction with that, possibly some 777-300ER orders to tide us over till the new 777 is ready.
I'm not seeing the case for the A-350, introduce a new fleet type when CO management is not that enthusiastic about any Airbus, and they have such a good record already on the delivery date, not that Boeing will be much better on the 777X.
I would however expect Boeing to maybe offer the 777X to us as a possible launch customer. In conjunction with that, possibly some 777-300ER orders to tide us over till the new 777 is ready.
I'm not seeing the case for the A-350, introduce a new fleet type when CO management is not that enthusiastic about any Airbus, and they have such a good record already on the delivery date, not that Boeing will be much better on the 777X.
01-13-2013 | 04:53 PM
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Otto,
It's Bush's fault, not JP, you should know that.
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