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Old 01-24-2013 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Free Flyer
BES # of Positions New Positions
CLE-737-CA 115 6
CLE-737-FO 114 10
DEN-737-CA 78 1
DEN-737-FO 77 0
NYC-737-CA 314 5
NYC-737-FO 315 5
NYC-756-CA 313 0
NYC-756-FO 455 82
NYC-777-CA 132 0
NYC-777-FO 345 3
GUM-737-CA 65 0
GUM-737-FO 74 12
IAH-737-CA 614 4
IAH-737-FO 612 49
IAH-756-CA 165 2
IAH-756-FO 200 64
IAH-777-CA 42 4
IAH-777-FO 91 0
IAH-787-CA 54 2
IAH-787-FO 132 0
LAX-737-CA 82 0
LAX-737-FO 83 0
LAX-756-CA 0 0
LAX-756-FO 0 0
ORD-737-CA 73 0
ORD-737-FO 72 0


Here's the picture of what I'm talking about. This is directly of our sCAL Standing System Bid page. I deleted my relative seniority information, but other than that this is the complete page. As you can see, not as many open slots to bid for as the bulletin states.
What your looking at is from the previous bid. The screen is just meant to show how you would have fared in the previous bid had you held that BES.

As the notes of the new bid state there were roughly 270 untrained/unfilled vacancies from the previous bid and roughly 319 new vacancies due to the new contract.

This begs the question if the UAL side will have the same need due the contract. Most think they will but much less than the CAL side due to the similarity in contract work rules. However, retirements are retirements and it seems they are holding out till the SLI to prevent double training events from people flip flopping between the sides.

At some point though, if they are short for the summer, the UAL side will have to recall but it won't be many. Not much is going to happen till the SLI and after that, well we shall see but there will be a lot of movement.

Get used to larger bids than over the past 10-15 years. As we close in on 2016-17 when the retirements really start chugging you'll be glad you got a seat at a major. Even if this industry doesn't grow much in the next 3 years (as it likely won't) the shift of flying from RJ's to major narrow bodies will drain the top shelf applicants from around the system . The direction United, American and Delta are taking clearly shows while the 76 seat jet will haves a limited ascent over the next few years clearly the bulk of US domestic flying will be done in 737s and A320s. There isn't a 76 seater out there that can touch a Max or NEO on long term profitability for the vast majority of domestic routes. If your staying at a regional, plant your flag and setup shop but if it's a major career you want get that suit out, finish the degree if you haven't and get in line at the job fair because you want to be on the front of this wave.
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Old 01-24-2013 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot
Mine said previous bid. They update it with the first trial run.
Ok. I will look at it again once the first run is out. I guess I was confused because it had all of the current info at the very top of the screen saying bid opens on 1/23/2013 at 6:00pm CST

I'll repost it once those numbers come out.
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Old 01-24-2013 | 06:24 AM
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Bid also still shows lax 756 which according to the bid is not supposed to be available as a choice. I expect all of this will be updated after the first snapshot. The snapshots are pdf files that look just like a base senority list. It shows all available bidders including those on any leave, supervisors, and retirements. It takes you current senority numbers so you can look at any BES( base, seat, equipment) and see where you would be.
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Old 01-24-2013 | 06:34 AM
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Interesting to see many of the CAL ALPA brothers trying to take advantage of the situation the company put us in. You do understand that the current bid is the result of the recently ratified contract "man power requirements". Trying to take advantage plays into the company's plan for division between the two groups going forward.

Both the CAL and UAL MEC's should show unity during this transition and SLI process and press for one of two things. Equal bids at both airlines or a flush bid after SLI.
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Old 01-24-2013 | 08:14 AM
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Can anyone explain the large number of 756 FO vacancies? Are they anticipating all the 757 FOs to bid up? It's not like they are adding more airplanes or block hours.
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Old 01-24-2013 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
Can anyone explain the large number of 756 FO vacancies? Are they anticipating all the 757 FOs to bid up? It's not like they are adding more airplanes or block hours.
Work rules maybe?
Dunno. I was thinking the same thing.
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Old 01-24-2013 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
Can anyone explain the large number of 756 FO vacancies? Are they anticipating all the 757 FOs to bid up? It's not like they are adding more airplanes or block hours.
Being told work rules and 76 flying in EWR
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Old 01-24-2013 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
Can anyone explain the large number of 756 FO vacancies? Are they anticipating all the 757 FOs to bid up? It's not like they are adding more airplanes or block hours.
Pretty sure it's the new work rules (IRO works both ways)
And maybe the new FAR rest rules
Both of these increase the number of WB FO positions
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Old 01-24-2013 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedtape
Pretty sure it's the new work rules (IRO works both ways)
And maybe the new FAR rest rules
Both of these increase the number of WB FO positions
So the 757 is a WB now? I was looking at the open time today for Ewr 756. I saw a 4 day that only paid like 12 hours. It sat some place for 48 hours. When the 5 hour per day rig kicks in...that trip will pay 20, correct? Or does that 5 per day only apply to days that you actually fly?
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Old 01-24-2013 | 11:17 AM
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It will be 5 hours per day average for the trip, but that doesn't start until September. Another reason I voted no.
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