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Old 01-24-2013 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
Can anyone explain the large number of 756 FO vacancies? Are they anticipating all the 757 FOs to bid up? It's not like they are adding more airplanes or block hours.
My completely guess is these vacancies reflect the slow integration of the L-UAL 75/76 domiciles in NYC and IAH?

"The expectation is that all United pilots would compete for those vacancies for which training and advancement has not been scheduled, based upon their new seniority."

Of course the capt numbers don't match so maybe it is a bad theory...
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Old 01-24-2013 | 06:16 PM
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cannot get an answer on the other thread. What is JH/l-ual problem with l-cal running a system bid that has been slated for release for over 6 months????
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Old 01-24-2013 | 07:06 PM
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cannot get an answer on the other thread. What is JH/l-ual problem with l-cal running a system bid that has been slated for release for over 6 months????
I'm not sure. What does the JCBA say about staffing? I'm guessing this is in LOA 26 or whatever. I'm sure no one cares, as long as its within the JCBA.
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Old 01-24-2013 | 07:16 PM
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JCBA states l-cal moving to vacancy bidding like ual (march timeframe)... but nothing about how/how often a bid can be run.
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Old 01-25-2013 | 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ewr756drive
JCBA states l-cal moving to vacancy bidding like ual (march timeframe)... but nothing about how/how often a bid can be run.
Wrong. Combined CMS.
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Old 01-25-2013 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by liquid
Wrong. Combined CMS.

The JCBA Section 8, Staffing, specifies that bid awards for United Airlines be Vacancy Bids, very much like the current system under which the United Pilots are familiar. However, the Joint Implementation Team (JIT) was unable to reach agreement on early implementation of the JCBA Section 8 Vacancy bids for the Continental side of the operation. As such, the company utilized the Continental System Bid while transitioning. This should be the last CAL System Bid as all future bids should be fully implemented under the United Pilot Agreement (UPA) Section 8-C Vacancy Bidding provisions.
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Old 01-25-2013 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dicecal
The JCBA Section 8, Staffing, specifies that bid awards for United Airlines be Vacancy Bids, very much like the current system under which the United Pilots are familiar. However, the Joint Implementation Team (JIT) was unable to reach agreement on early implementation of the JCBA Section 8 Vacancy bids for the Continental side of the operation. As such, the company utilized the Continental System Bid while transitioning. This should be the last CAL System Bid as all future bids should be fully implemented under the United Pilot Agreement (UPA) Section 8-C Vacancy Bidding provisions.

Nice selective quoting...
How about next time you quote a source you use the whole email letter.
or maybe it would be too much of an emotional impact on you.

The CAL Contract 02 is still in force with regards to system bids. There is no "march timeframe" for transitioning to Section 8 of the UPA.

LOA 26 Item 102, or page 475 of the UPA
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Old 01-25-2013 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by UAL MEC
The JCBA Section 8, Staffing, specifies that bid awards for United Airlines be Vacancy Bids, very much like the current system under which the United Pilots are familiar. However, the Joint Implementation Team (JIT) was unable to reach agreement on early implementation of the JCBA Section 8 Vacancy bids for the Continental side of the operation. As such, the company utilized the Continental System Bid while transitioning. This should be the last CAL System Bid as all future bids should be fully implemented under the United Pilot Agreement (UPA) Section 8-C Vacancy Bidding provisions.
Not if the SLI isn't done.

And for the same reason as this one.
Originally Posted by UAL MEC
There is a large amount of UPA “soft time” (e.g., trip and duty rigs, M5D, training and vacation credit increases) being introduced into the CAL operation between now and September, creating an understaffing situation on the CAL side. The Company felt that it needed to put a bid out now in order to get pilots trained and in place for the big M5D credit increase slated for September.
Plus, the next bid will have to cover the "soft time" that will go into effect with FAR 117 on 1/1/14.
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Old 01-25-2013 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay Heppner
January 25, 2013

Dear Fellow Pilots:

A CAL 737 base in SFO, while permitted in the TPA extension, would have had an emotional impact on the United Pilots.


Captain Jay Heppner
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Leave SFO alone!
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Old 01-25-2013 | 01:44 PM
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Now that's funny.
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