sCAL Trip Splits
02-07-2013 | 08:30 PM
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sCAL Trip Splits
Perusing the new FEB 7th edition of UPA Next steps, there is a little note for the sCAL pilots concerning implementation of M5D and rigs. According to the UPA notes, trip splits at sCAL will no longer be allowed due to the new rules. This is going to hit a lot of day trip guys at sCAL tremendously. I've lost count the number of four day trips that are worth 10-15 hours simply because 7 days prior to the start of the trip, a CA has "split" off the turn either on the front end or back end of the trip. Not entirely sure yet if this is a truly good thing or a bad thing. Time will tell but I do know one subgroup of the UAL pilots that are going to be ****ed to no end as of March 1st.
02-07-2013 | 08:41 PM
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) was full of 757 3 day trips that were worth 10-ish hours. Again M5D fixes that.The transition might bite in terms of splitting trips at s-CAL, but I'm thinking M5D is one of the good things, no? Why is everyone going to be ****ed? I'm not following.
02-08-2013 | 03:35 AM
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M5D fixes that, a 4 day trip will be worth 20 hours. s-UAL island flying off the west coast (before the flying went to guppy's ) was full of 757 3 day trips that were worth 10-ish hours. Again M5D fixes that.
The transition might bite in terms of splitting trips at s-CAL, but I'm thinking M5D is one of the good things, no? Why is everyone going to be ****ed? I'm not following.
) was full of 757 3 day trips that were worth 10-ish hours. Again M5D fixes that.The transition might bite in terms of splitting trips at s-CAL, but I'm thinking M5D is one of the good things, no? Why is everyone going to be ****ed? I'm not following.
02-08-2013 | 06:47 AM
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All this and that being said, I think M5D was one of the really good things in this contract.
02-08-2013 | 06:53 AM
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M5D fixes that, a 4 day trip will be worth 20 hours. s-UAL island flying off the west coast (before the flying went to guppy's ) was full of 757 3 day trips that were worth 10-ish hours. Again M5D fixes that.
The transition might bite in terms of splitting trips at s-CAL, but I'm thinking M5D is one of the good things, no? Why is everyone going to be ****ed? I'm not following.
) was full of 757 3 day trips that were worth 10-ish hours. Again M5D fixes that.The transition might bite in terms of splitting trips at s-CAL, but I'm thinking M5D is one of the good things, no? Why is everyone going to be ****ed? I'm not following.
02-08-2013 | 01:57 PM
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M5D fixes that, a 4 day trip will be worth 20 hours. s-UAL island flying off the west coast (before the flying went to guppy's ) was full of 757 3 day trips that were worth 10-ish hours. Again M5D fixes that.
The transition might bite in terms of splitting trips at s-CAL, but I'm thinking M5D is one of the good things, no? Why is everyone going to be ****ed? I'm not following.
) was full of 757 3 day trips that were worth 10-ish hours. Again M5D fixes that.The transition might bite in terms of splitting trips at s-CAL, but I'm thinking M5D is one of the good things, no? Why is everyone going to be ****ed? I'm not following.
Don't get me wrong. It is a good thing. We simply have a culture at sCAL that wants productivity over soft time. Breaking off the front end/back end turn of a 3 or 4 day allowed for more time at home and less away. Sitting in a hotel getting 5 hours of pay for the day vs sitting at home is a no brainer. What's scary is flying a 757 to HNL with no GPS.
02-09-2013 | 05:43 AM
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Don't get me wrong. It is a good thing. We simply have a culture at sCAL that wants productivity over soft time. Breaking off the front end/back end turn of a 3 or 4 day allowed for more time at home and less away. Sitting in a hotel getting 5 hours of pay for the day vs sitting at home is a no brainer. What's scary is flying a 757 to HNL with no GPS.
Please tell me you are joking about the no GPS thing? I'd rather fly an old s-UA 757 with Pratt's out to Hawaii than one of our new 737-900ER's any day. I've noticed since the merger we have added tons of 757-300 flights from the West Coast to Hawaii and have enjoyed a few of these Kona/Maui layovers myself. Even though it looks like I'm going to the 737 in a few months I hope marketing puts nothing smaller than a 757-200 on Hawaii flights going forward.
02-09-2013 | 06:02 AM
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Please tell me you are joking about the no GPS thing? I'd rather fly an old s-UA 757 with Pratt's out to Hawaii than one of our new 737-900ER's any day. I've noticed since the merger we have added tons of 757-300 flights from the West Coast to Hawaii and have enjoyed a few of these Kona/Maui layovers myself. Even though it looks like I'm going to the 737 in a few months I hope marketing puts nothing smaller than a 757-200 on Hawaii flights going forward.
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