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Lerxst 02-23-2013 08:05 AM

Old UAL B756 12 yr CA rate $158.94:

Lineholder MPG 65 hours x 158.94 = $10,331.10 + (16% B/C) $1652.98

= $11984.08

Old CAL B737 12 yr CA rate $169.33:

Lineholder MPG 72 hours x 169.33 = $12,191.76 + (12.75% B) $1554.45

= $13,746.21

SpecialTracking 02-23-2013 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by Ottopilot (Post 1358611)
Day time flying.
Drinkable water at overnight. (Been to India?)
Weekends/holidays off.
Short overnights (= more time at home).
Similair pay.
Choice of trip types: 1 day - 4 day.
Plenty of days off.

I've done WB flying, I'll stick to the NB flying.
Better QOL all around.

A reply is not necessary. The validity of your post speaks volumes. Press on my friend.

SpecialTracking 02-23-2013 08:12 AM

Which is a more valid comparison, a paycheck or the monetary value of a contract? After you have answered that question, then ask yourself if it has any bearing on the sli.

Lerxst 02-23-2013 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 1358647)
Which is a more valid comparison, a paycheck or the monetary value of a contract? After you have answered that question, then ask yourself if it has any bearing on the sli.

I agree with your sentiment, but the arbitrators will have to start somewhere to objectively measure and quantifiably define the subjective "Career Expectations" component of sli.

An arbitration last summer ruled that W2 Wage Data (includes not just pay but imputed employee contributions for healthcare) is a valid statistical and comparative baseline tool that reflects the monetary value of disparate pre-merged contracts.

SoCalGuy 02-23-2013 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Lerxst (Post 1358660)
An arbitration last summer ruled that W2 Wage Data (includes not just pay but imputed employee contributions for healthcare) is a valid statistical and comparative baseline tool that reflects the monetary value of disparate pre-merged contracts.

I wonder if that's the reason why L-UA's MEC fought tooth/nail when L-CO MEC asked UCH Mgt for the W-2 info/data for the L-UA Pilot Group.

Just a wild guess, but I'm sure the data that was eventually granted following the request filtered it's way down to a certain committee.

R57 relay 02-23-2013 10:34 AM

This thread is hilarious. Take the dates off and I wouldn't know if it was my life from 1987, 1998, 2001, 2005 or the soon to come US/AA arguments. Well, except for the no internet in 1987. Anyway, just goes to show you, pilots are pilots. Same varieties everywhere.

Now UA pilots. How do you feel about DOH now? ;-)

cadetdrivr 02-23-2013 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by R57 relay (Post 1358744)
Now UA pilots. How do you feel about DOH now? ;-)

Since you asked, we remain thrilled that we didn't get stuck with the "ugly girl" in 2000 or 2010. ;-)

R57 relay 02-23-2013 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 1358753)
Since you asked, we remain thrilled that we didn't get stuck with the "ugly girl" in 2000 or 2010. ;-)

Typical Marv, can't follow a simple question!:p

Horton decided that after a few beers and 19 million out the door that old hose bag looked pretty good.;)

Seriously though, good luck to both sides.

SpecialTracking 02-23-2013 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by R57 relay (Post 1358744)
Now UA pilots. How do you feel about DOH now? ;-)

I think the answer might surprise you.

R57 relay 02-23-2013 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 1358765)
I think the answer might surprise you.

I doubt it.


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