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Old 03-05-2013, 11:43 AM
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Not my sli but this seems like some sage advice. In the end past wont matter as much as future progression. It will seem a little bit painful to everyone except # 1.
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:33 PM
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OK, lemme be precise for you, 3 years 7 months as 73 CA and 6 years 5 months as 75/76 CA.

Are you really arguing that your career would have not been better (earnings, seat, and seniority QOL) as a 90's hire at cal? If that is what you are saying, then I want what your drinking. This is all mental stroking, but the facts remain 06 and 05 hires are 73 and 756 Ca's respectively at cal. That could change slightly in the SLI, but no windfalls dictate that you cannot punish a person for the company they chose, or where they are at that company. Your relative seniority will have the most effect on your position, along with small adjustments of seats, longevity, and career expectations... If you don't expect reality, you will be sadly disappointed when it is published...

Oh, and those CA's are 'hanging on' as in a previous post.
If you honestly think 2005 CAL pilots are going to get stacked on top of '96 UAL pilots during the SLI, then I want some of what you're smoking. CAL junior captains, enjoy your seat now until the next furlough/surplus cycle. Absent that, enjoy sitting reserve for the next 10 years.f
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilotbiffster View Post
If you honestly think 2005 CAL pilots are going to get stacked on top of '96 UAL pilots during the SLI, then I want some of what you're smoking. CAL junior captains, enjoy your seat now until the next furlough/surplus cycle. Absent that, enjoy sitting reserve for the next 10 years.f
I think anything is possible. You just don't know.

You are not worried, are you?

Just curious, how did you come up with ten years of reserve?

... Soon we will all be in our RIGHTFUL place on the ISL.
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Old 03-05-2013, 05:01 PM
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I think anything is possible. You just don't know.

You are not worried, are you?

Just curious, how did you come up with ten years of reserve?

... Soon we will all be in our RIGHTFUL place on the ISL.
Because there's gonna be a ton of UAL F/O's senior to those junior captains and they will bid on top of them, Denver 737 in particular.
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:37 PM
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Because there's gonna be a ton of UAL F/O's senior to those junior captains and they will bid on top of them, Denver 737 in particular.
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilotbiffster View Post
Because there's gonna be a ton of UAL F/O's senior to those junior captains and they will bid on top of them, Denver 737 in particular.

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Old 03-05-2013, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilotbiffster View Post
If you honestly think 2005 CAL pilots are going to get stacked on top of '96 UAL pilots during the SLI, then I want some of what you're smoking. CAL junior captains, enjoy your seat now until the next furlough/surplus cycle. Absent that, enjoy sitting reserve for the next 10 years.f
Why should a pilot with only 8 years longevity go ahead of a pilot with 17 years longevity especially when the 17 year pilot comes from the airline with 3 times as many widebody aircraft?

Not going to happen. You can bet that.
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:19 PM
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Why should a pilot with only 8 years longevity go ahead of a pilot with 17 years longevity especially when the 17 year pilot comes from the airline with 3 times as many widebody aircraft?

Not going to happen. You can bet that.
And the transparent attempt to equate a 767 to a 777 or -400. Do you L-CAL folks not realize that the arbitrator will see that as well? Meh, I'm done with this thread. See you 2007 hires below our 2000 furloughees soon.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilotbiffster View Post
If you honestly think 2005 CAL pilots are going to get stacked on top of '96 UAL pilots during the SLI, then I want some of what you're smoking. CAL junior captains, enjoy your seat now until the next furlough/surplus cycle. Absent that, enjoy sitting reserve for the next 10 years.f
On the day before the merger was announced could you hold Captain at United? I don't know... But the 2005 Continental hire could and was flying in the seat!

Just because there was a merger does not give you some trumping power for the left seat. In your mind the day after the merger was announced, were you awarded Captain in some bid that happened in your brain?
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilotbiffster View Post
And the transparent attempt to equate a 767 to a 777 or -400. Do you L-CAL folks not realize that the arbitrator will see that as well? Meh, I'm done with this thread. See you 2007 hires below our 2000 furloughees soon.
You will have to show me where in the last 28 mergers, a furlough was put in front of an active pilot...
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