Today's LUAL SLI Presentation?
05-31-2013 | 08:32 AM
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That may have been true for a short period but if you factor in all the other benefits probable not.
If you look at the last contract, the UAL side is paying about 30% more for health insurance and 100% of Long Term Disability. Those two things wiped out the pay raise. Don't know what the cal guys were paying for these or what you got in terms of retirement contributions but I'm sure you were paying more and receiving less than UAL's. I don't think you can really claim superior pay for being a "second tier airline" just on hourly rate.
If you look at the last contract, the UAL side is paying about 30% more for health insurance and 100% of Long Term Disability. Those two things wiped out the pay raise. Don't know what the cal guys were paying for these or what you got in terms of retirement contributions but I'm sure you were paying more and receiving less than UAL's. I don't think you can really claim superior pay for being a "second tier airline" just on hourly rate.
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05-31-2013 | 08:39 AM
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05-31-2013 | 08:49 AM
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No, my assumptions are the UAL proposed SLI does not support the group of 94' CAL furloughs that I was part of like it does the UAL furloughs!! I don't have hard #'s or facts and I promised I wouldn't spout them off here if I couldn't back it up!! But after looking at your list and trying to follow the UAL formula It looks like I lost ground during that time period! I have people hired after me ahead of me? Should it work like that if I received Longevity credit time. Not going to lose sleep over it though!! And I am glad I have your support!!
05-31-2013 | 09:02 AM
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05-31-2013 | 09:12 AM
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Make no mistake the 737-200(Guppy) bought my house and educated my kids. Whether new or not a Guppy is just a Guppy. With the extension of length and range they've taken a good regional airplane and turned it into a terrible medium range airplane. Enjoy it - you may be there a long time.
05-31-2013 | 09:16 AM
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Ok folks the first 747-400 was delivered to Northwest in 1988, they were the launch customer.....UAL got there first one in 1989. Great airplane and far from the old whale from 1970. Classic -vs- Glass.
Would like to see us get the 747-800. Don't know why the CAL folks take jabs at the -400. It is not your grandpa's whale like PEX's old 747 rope starts.
Would like to see us get the 747-800. Don't know why the CAL folks take jabs at the -400. It is not your grandpa's whale like PEX's old 747 rope starts.
05-31-2013 | 09:27 AM
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Ok folks the first 747-400 was delivered to Northwest in 1988, they were the launch customer.....UAL got there first one in 1989. Great airplane and far from the old whale from 1970. Classic -vs- Glass.
Would like to see us get the 747-800. Don't know why the CAL folks take jabs at the -400. It is not your grandpa's whale like PEX's old 747 rope starts.
Would like to see us get the 747-800. Don't know why the CAL folks take jabs at the -400. It is not your grandpa's whale like PEX's old 747 rope starts.
Tiny airplane syndrome?
05-31-2013 | 09:27 AM
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Ok folks the first 747-400 was delivered to Northwest in 1988, they were the launch customer.....UAL got there first one in 1989. Great airplane and far from the old whale from 1970. Classic -vs- Glass.
Would like to see us get the 747-800. Don't know why the CAL folks take jabs at the -400. It is not your grandpa's whale like PEX's old 747 rope starts.
Would like to see us get the 747-800. Don't know why the CAL folks take jabs at the -400. It is not your grandpa's whale like PEX's old 747 rope starts.
Boeing 747-400 Prices Tumble as Fuel Costs End 23-Year Reign - Bloomberg
05-31-2013 | 09:28 AM
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Make no mistake the 737-200(Guppy) bought my house and educated my kids. Whether new or not a Guppy is just a Guppy. With the extension of length and range they've taken a good regional airplane and turned it into a terrible medium range airplane. Enjoy it - you may be there a long time.
Hope I am wrong but think you are not going to be so happy in the next couple months.
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