Coming back from mil leave has different requirements than a normal LOA. The federal law is less stringent than the contract. Federal law trumps.

I am pretty sure for mil leave they have to pay you at the rate you can hold. I've been out for 5 years so, they should have to pay me at the rate the guy 1 number junior to me holds. Also, my seat lock will be the same as the guy 1 number junior to me. I.E. if the guy on the 787 below me got the bid 2 years ago, I have no seat lock.

Good info guys. Keep it coming!

 

Good luck with that. 12-D applies to you.

 

Returning pilot from MLOA can hold any acft/domicile he/she could have successfully bid during the period on a MLOA... This is different than someone who returns from furlough... They get to bid only vacant acft/domiciled (like new hires). Pay starts the day you say you can return... If >14/30 days... Can't remember exactly.

 

How so? Everybody's 6 years got rehacked in 2012. The rest is less stringent than USERRA. Which part of 12D are you referring to that would be an issue for anybody?

 

I'm not sure what CRM114 is referencing, but I understand it the way you do.
CRM114 could possibly be referencing pay?
Here is the reference for returning from MIL Leave:
12-D Military Leave (“MLOA”)
12-D-1 Unless required by law, a Pilot may not exceed six (6) consecutive years of military leave. This six (6) year limit shall not commence until all furloughed Pilots are offered recall.
12-D-2 Notwithstanding Section 11-A-4, a Pilot shall accrue vacation for the first ninety (90) consecutive days of military leave. Thereafter, he shall have his vacation accrual reduced by one-twelfth (1/12) for each full Bid Period he is on a military leave of absence in excess of ninety (90) days.
12-D-3 Return from Military Leave
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Notwithstanding the requirements of Section 8-E-6-f and Section 12-H, the following shall apply to a Pilot who returns from a military leave of absence:
12-D-3-a If a Pilot was displaced pursuant to Section 8 while on military leave, when he returns to Active Service with the Company, in addition to the option in Section 12-D-3-b, he shall be permitted to displace to any Category that his seniority entitles him.
12-D-3-b A Pilot returning to Active Service with the Company shall be eligible to be awarded a position in any Category as follows:
12-D-3-b-(1) The Pilot shall make his request no later than ten (10) days after first notifying the Company of his intention to return to work or the date he is scheduled to report for training, whichever is first;
12-D-3-b-(2) The Category to be awarded is one in which the Pilot’s seniority would have entitled him to fill during the vacancy bidding process while he was on military leave; and
12-D-3-b-(3) The returning Pilot shall have any training freeze associated with such vacancy commence on the date that the vacancy was awarded to a junior Pilot.

 

I don't see anything that would be an issue for a MIL return. Other LOA's, there are some gotchas. Anybody know how you find out the training dates for the next guy junior to you for the freeze on your new equipment?

 

I emailed the pilot service center and this is the response I got:

"When you are returning from Military Leave, you would advise the Pilot Service Center via an email with your available date for training. If you can give 10 days notice that would be good because you will have to clear security, background check, drug test and Medical before training.

You will be provided a list of vacancies of which you will be able to bid for
according to your seniority.

If you have further questions or concerns, please contact the Pilot Service
Center.

Thank you."

 

They are wrong... Per CBA you don't bid... You tell them what domicile and fleet based on vacancy awards you could have had while on MLOA (not furlough)...

 

Both of you are correct. LUAL and LCAL guys are being returned by different methods. Ultimately the second answer is correct. You don't bid. You tell them where you want to go. I've heard going through the PSS for the LUAL guys has been a bit of a hassle. So far on the LCAL side, it's been pretty smooth as the CPO handles it.

 

Good point... I thought everyone was coming back same way... Forgot that L-CAL MLOA was a bit diff.