Indoc to training
#21
Not sure about that. New contract has you in your base activated day one of OE. You may get the night before you start OE but after that you are on your own. Had several friends affected by this change.
#27
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 42
For what its worth, I was an August new hire. Indoc 9 days in DEN followed by 6.5 weeks of 737 training in IAH. No breaks at all, except the 2 calendar days off each week, sometimes only home 30 hours. 4am sims the entire time.
Training pay through all of it (3 hours per day plus per diem 24 hours a day) which was very nice.
Positive space to and from Home of Record on days off (but be careful bc an oversold flight you can actually be bumped as an agent attempted to do to me).
Hotel with single occupancy the whole time. INCLUDING IOE before and after the trips. I did a 1 day turn, then a 4 day trip and had hotels for all of it.
You get 3 days off either after your LOE event before IOE, or after IOE. There is allegedly a date you have to make the request by, and I think I missed it, but the IOE scheduler gave it to me anyway. DON'T FORGET THIS.
You also get 3 transfer days that must be requested within 90 days of being activated in your new position (right after IOE). I was told about this late in the game, it slipped my mind, and I missed the cutoff. DON'T FORGET THIS EITHER.
Sorry for the all caps, but just wanted to help you guys get everything you are entitled to contractually. Some of this was not emphasized to us....or maybe I was so flooded with information I just never processed it.
Good luck and welcome!!!!
Training pay through all of it (3 hours per day plus per diem 24 hours a day) which was very nice.
Positive space to and from Home of Record on days off (but be careful bc an oversold flight you can actually be bumped as an agent attempted to do to me).
Hotel with single occupancy the whole time. INCLUDING IOE before and after the trips. I did a 1 day turn, then a 4 day trip and had hotels for all of it.
You get 3 days off either after your LOE event before IOE, or after IOE. There is allegedly a date you have to make the request by, and I think I missed it, but the IOE scheduler gave it to me anyway. DON'T FORGET THIS.
You also get 3 transfer days that must be requested within 90 days of being activated in your new position (right after IOE). I was told about this late in the game, it slipped my mind, and I missed the cutoff. DON'T FORGET THIS EITHER.
Sorry for the all caps, but just wanted to help you guys get everything you are entitled to contractually. Some of this was not emphasized to us....or maybe I was so flooded with information I just never processed it.
Good luck and welcome!!!!
#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: Gets weekends off
Posts: 1,168
I got told I was being "moved to the jumpseat" and I refused, and then she said I could get on the next flight and I told her that would make me late for training. No worries, I said I'll go home and call Pilot Service Center and let them know the CSR bumped me off my PS flight.
Magically she found a seat for me.
#29
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 42
She called me up to the podium and asked me if I was a "must ride". I said, "well, I'm positive spaced to training, so I guess so." She then went on a dissertation about how PS has various levels and if I wasn't Deadheading to protect a flight, she could bump me until the very last flight of the night. I then asked her how I was supposed to get adequate rest for an 4am sim if she had me arriving at midnight b/c I would never schedule that way on my own. She relented and eventually let me on. PS to training is booked as PS5 and DH is PS0, and I have no clue what PS1-4 are. She never mentioned the jumpseat. The whole thing was weird to me b/c after 10 years at a regional, Positive Space was simply that, regardless of the reason, but this is apparently how UAL does it. Declaring "must ride" and giving your supervisor's name seems to be the work around for this as was explained to me by some UAX guys in my class.
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