Scrappy

How about this...be a man, be a professional, be a "C"aptain and just let it go.

If I responded to all the drivel pilotgolfer64 spouts we would be here all night. I don't. And frankly I don't care. I have "life" to enjoy. And the sad part is I know the guy.

I don't know who Mitch is and he's not my boy.

gettinbumped

Absolutely. As usual it's the UAL pilots who are spouting the drivel. Definitely NOT the CAL pilots. Got it. I'll introduce you to Mitch. He's the guy that launched the SLI bomb into a post that had nothing to do with it. But don't blame him!! I'M the one who needs to "rise above"

While I'm at it I'll introduce you to Ben. He's the guy that introduced this RIDICULOUS resolution driving yet another wedge between the pilot groups. Par for his course

Scrappy

Ahh, he said, she said.

Think whatever you'd like. You're the victim of course! Not only have I gone after you because you're the guy that stated Cal guys stole from you but now I'm going after ALL legacy U guys. Utter crap and completely putting words in my mouth that are false.

I'll respond to whoever barks the biggest load of manure...don't care about legacy this or that. But guess what, I don't because it's such a waste of time and blatantly emotional and biased. The only reason I responded to you is because your "stole" accusations really hit the bottom of the barrel. Like I or anyone else had absolutely anything to do with it. Get a grip!

sleeves

Actually, the arbitratiors said we should not have negotiated with the company alone, not that we should not have, or did not deserve profit sharing. We should have made the same stink when Heppner went running to the company and got you guys scope outside of the TPA because of the emotional impact opening a SFO 737 base would have had. Using your train of thought you did not have contractional protection to that flying and did not deserve to be given the scope to protect it.

baseball

They must be navy buddies or something. That explains allot.

baseball

So, this CAL guy on the committee was the village idiot, I mean expert? Great. Thanks ALPA for making sure our ALPA guy was straight laced and squared away. I guess your ALPA assigned lawyer was better than our assigned ALPA lawyer. So much for the tool box.

ALPA told us we wouldn't have to worry about that stuff. The ALPA toolbox would be available to us completely.


You can talk about whatever year you want to. The issue wit Pan Am is this: Pan Am provided UAL pilots a tremendous long term growth benefit and UAL pilots scoffed at it. Clamored about and yelled and screamed. CAL pilots provided you all again with a tremendous benefit, and not only did you scoff at it but took advantage of it to take care of the 1400 unemployed pilots and did so on the backs of fully and gainfully employed pilots who have never lost a day of work.

Sure it's a discussion. Some guy keeps bringing it up. The CAL pilots would have done better on their own without the so-called merger experts that ALPA gave to us and that ALPA dues money paid for. This guy Katz was approved by and paid for by ALPA National. No one told us we were going to get saddled with a dead wood lawyer. We were too trusting in what ALPA told us in 1999 and 2000.


Remember. CAL pilots hired post 1996 never missed a day of work due to furlough. So, it is completely rational for those pilots to feel as though They showed up with a life boat to bail out UAL and instead ALPA takes the life boat, then made them walk the plank while paying for and financing the activities of the merger committee. Then, the award comes out and not only did they walk the plank but got to hold the boat anchor. Now that they are thrown overboard we keep getting gems like BAT bids. So these dudes are in 40 feet of water drowning and we have to deal with profit sharing bafoonery. Last I checked UCH holdings writes the pay checks so if they paid out any moneys they should not have those are the ones that make it right, not CAL pilots.

AllenAllert

Maybe you should take your own advice. How about this...be a man, be a professional, be a "C"aptain and just let it go. Encourage "your boys" to do the same.

CousinEddie

Baseball,

Why would a 1996 hire at CAL feel like you do about the ISL? Have you spoken with one? As a 1997 UAL hire myself, the closest CAL pilot to my DOH was just over 2000 numbers senior to me on the ISL. I was never furloughed and have spent a total of 3 months of my time here on reserve. I simply have found it easier to move on and accept it. You never will, so just let it gnaw at you forever I suppose.

pilot64golfer

Seriously? So there weren't pilots on furlough from 2008 to the merger date?

Continental to furlough 140-180 pilots | | Dallas Morning News

Plus what about this one?

I guess this newspaper got it wrong.

Jan 11, 2002

HOUSTON(AP) - Continental Airlines said Thursday it will furlough 100 more pilots in March bringing the total number of pilots laid off since the Sept 11 attacks to 539.

https://news.google.com/newspapers?n...,2182963&hl=en

untied

You beat me to it.

Baseball is full of LIES and we all know it!

I've flown with 1999 hires (from CAL) who were on the street.

And "ALPA assigned lawyers"?????? We picked our guy early since he was better than Katz. We were not randomly assigned a lawyer.

Some of these guys are really delusional.