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Old 06-19-2015 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 74pilot
Your naiveté is showing if you truly think that only those pilots on the property during the last pilot strikes have skin in the game.

I'm on my 6th CEO in this joint and ironically on my 6th bump. The only constant I can offer is that it sucks to be junior.
So I am naive by acknowledging the fact that I wasn't actually here walking the picket line? That is, after all, what my meaning of "skin in the game" was intended to be in that post.
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Old 06-19-2015 | 02:27 PM
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24.....maybe you weren't around for the circle jerk euphoric posts from the '05-'07 ex-Con crowd during the Upgrade Party. Or maybe you were one of the many who were banned and now you're back as 24/48. Either way...I told yous guys then that the BS out of seniority upgrades would be rectified. And you bet your ascot I'm gonna gloat about being right. But I'll give you this....those upgrades have given me and my homies some serious reserve cushion.....and for that, my anonymous aas says THANK YOU.
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Old 06-19-2015 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jsled
24.....maybe you weren't around for the circle jerk euphoric posts from the '05-'07 ex-Con crowd during the Upgrade Party. Or maybe you were one of the many who were banned and now you're back as 24/48. Either way...I told yous guys then that the BS out of seniority upgrades would be rectified. And you bet your ascot I'm gonna gloat about being right. But I'll give you this....those upgrades have given me and my homies some serious reserve cushion.....and for that, my anonymous aas says THANK YOU.
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Ok, I understand now. You are acting like an a-hole just like those guys did. Got it.
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Old 06-19-2015 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 24/48
You're right, bumps/displacements are part of the profession, and there are provisions in our contract dealing with displacements. Your base is closing thus you're displaced. As you state, you can hold Captain in a lot of bases, but not all bases have vacancies, or will have vacancies in the future. Those bases can absorb up to 2% above the published min, so as you plot your course in your little war room, there are some categories that you may bump in to that'll exceed that 2% and potentially result in a secondary displacement.
Exactly right.

LUAL guys will bump in to bases that can't hold that many Captains.

Then…the junior LCAL Captains will be bumped off the bottom.

The big seat grab perpetrated by the 2005-2006 hires will finally be fixed.
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Old 06-19-2015 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by untied

The big seat grab perpetrated by the 2005-2006 hires will finally be fixed.
Overly dramatic much?
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Old 06-19-2015 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jdt30
Ok, I understand now. You are acting like an a-hole just like those guys did. Got it.
I think he's allowed a little leeway because those three years he lost cost him 10's if not a 100+ thousand $$$ which he'll never recoup.
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Old 06-20-2015 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
I think he's allowed a little leeway because those three years he lost cost him 10's if not a 100+ thousand $$$ which he'll never recoup.
Guys lost $5,000 per month for years......yep.
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Old 06-20-2015 | 04:48 AM
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Remember though. What started all of this was one of the little darlings correcting me when I talked about the inevitable bumps. No bumps, no flush and it was true because Fred told him it would never happen.
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Old 06-20-2015 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jsled
24.....maybe you weren't around for the circle jerk euphoric posts from the '05-'07 ex-Con crowd during the Upgrade Party. Or maybe you were one of the many who were banned and now you're back as 24/48. Either way...I told yous guys then that the BS out of seniority upgrades would be rectified. And you bet your ascot I'm gonna gloat about being right. But I'll give you this....those upgrades have given me and my homies some serious reserve cushion.....and for that, my anonymous aas says THANK YOU.
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I was around and have never been banned. I have to admit, though, I didn't participate much a few years back as I had other things in life going on. If I were engaged on this forum back then I would have been against the folks upgrading and gloating. I know many CAL guys that bid Captain just to get in the seat before the SLI.

That said, we don't need to re-hash the emotional arguments of the SLI. We enter section 6 negotiations in less than a year so maybe we should put the divisive BS aside and come together to fix the many problems we see in the UPA. Or, folks like you can continue to post in the sophomoric way that you do, because it makes you feel good. Have a nice day.
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Old 06-20-2015 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
Remember though. What started all of this was one of the little darlings correcting me when I talked about the inevitable bumps. No bumps, no flush and it was true because Fred told him it would never happen.
I was on a hotel van with some LCAL guys. They were explaining how "no bump, no flush" meant that they could NEVER lose their Captain seats.

I tried to tell them that airlines close bases, grow bases, shrink bases....and that they were wrong. "No bump" only had to do with the original SLI.

They laughed it off.

I didn't make a big deal out of it. I knew they would be faced with reality eventually.
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