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Old 10-10-2015 | 02:10 PM
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Are you by any chance a slick tie?
You're the one that has no problem appropriating other people's money and redistributing it; I'm guessing YOU would cross a picket line in a heartbeat to get someone else's hard earned job.
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Old 10-10-2015 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rp2pilot
You're the one that has no problem appropriating other people's money and redistributing it; I'm guessing YOU would cross a picket line in a heartbeat to get someone else's hard earned job.
Quite the opposite. I believe in solidarity, and that we all should work for the greater good, and placing ones own self after that. It just shocks me every time I come across union pilots that only look out for themselves. The "I got mine, do not ask me to help you" mentality that goes against the entire spirit of unity.
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Old 10-10-2015 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by El10
Quite the opposite. I believe in solidarity, and that we all should work for the greater good, and placing ones own self after that. It just shocks me every time I come across union pilots that only look out for themselves. The "I got mine, do not ask me to help you" mentality that goes against the entire spirit of unity.
So, with your philosophy of looking out for all, shouldn't there just be one pay rate, no difference between airplanes nor seats nor longevity? All labor and effort to the betterment of the collective greater good?
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Old 10-10-2015 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by El10
I voted for him, and proud that we now have expanded health care. If I pay a small tax that helps others get coverage that they could not afford otherwise, so be it.
When you retire, don't be surprised if you get nothing from Social Security. It will be determined that you've "had it too good." The unproductive decades long dope smoker from Colorado that never held a job for any significant period of time will need your money.

No big deal, right? You have done the right thing and pumped up that B-fund over many years. That is the smart thing to do in a world of no A-funds. Well, don't plan on "small" taxes on your withdrawls from your B-Fund during retirement. Other folks will need that money too.

All for the greater good, of course. There are 35 year old losers sitting on their mom's couch playing Xbox right now that will thank you. Actually, no they won't, because they will feel entitled to your money. Folks like Obama will make sure of it so they vote for them.

"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."

---Margaret Thatcher
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Old 10-10-2015 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by El10
Quite the opposite. I believe in solidarity, and that we all should work for the greater good, and placing ones own self after that. It just shocks me every time I come across union pilots that only look out for themselves. The "I got mine, do not ask me to help you" mentality that goes against the entire spirit of unity.


Last time I checked the entire country is not "union". Are you also advocating all ALPA carriers have the same insurance...if so I would love to see you write a check to a regional pilot to help them with their insurance costs.
Your fascist view is quite disturbing.
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Old 10-10-2015 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by AllenAllert
Would you care to expand on the drug stuff. Is he having problems with approval or trying to get the doctors to opt for a drug that they feel is better because it's cheaper.

Some of the maintenance drugs can be expensive and Express Scripts does a good job of approval and not trying to overrule the doctors. This could be a problem for many that have a family member that needs expensive maintenance drugs.
He has told me that in general, they are difficult to deal with compared to Express Scripts, and his mail order meds sometimes arrive late- which never happened before.

For us, the nearest CVS is 25 miles away.

As for Aetna, depending on the state, you might be able to keep it. According to the map on the company web site, your state of residence will decide which carrier you use- no choice either Aetna or BCBS.

Hopefully, I am wrong about this but the map seemed pretty clear.
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Old 10-11-2015 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by AllenAllert
Medicare Advantage, Medicare Advantage Plans - Aetna Medicare

You can keep AETNA. You would have thought deregulation would have had a greater impact on insurance coverage and cost, but being retired - you have choices !!!
The map shows an unwanted change to Blue Cross.

Aetna has always been available privately, but is a substantial cost increase out of the United group options...very close to 35%...a very costly "choice."
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Old 10-11-2015 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BMEP100
He has told me that in general, they are difficult to deal with compared to Express Scripts, and his mail order meds sometimes arrive late- which never happened before.

For us, the nearest CVS is 25 miles away.

As for Aetna, depending on the state, you might be able to keep it. According to the map on the company web site, your state of residence will decide which carrier you use- no choice either Aetna or BCBS.

Hopefully, I am wrong about this but the map seemed pretty clear.
No, I think you got it right. It's either Aetna or BCBS for medical. Question becomes - does it depend on where you live or where you're based or is it your choice between the two?

Express Script will be replaced by CVS for all and probable for retirees as well.

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The map shows an unwanted change to Blue Cross.

Aetna has always been available privately, but is a substantial cost increase out of the United group options...very close to 35%...a very costly "choice."
I've talked to several 65 and over retirees and understand it does get complicated and the wrong decision can be costly. Most seem to stay with the United supplemental policy even though it cost them almost twice what they paid while working but it does bring that back up to the pre-retirement insurance. The R&I Committee comes under fire for not passing information about the workings of Medicare and the United supplemental insurance. You are probably better prepared to pass on information about that. The one thing I have learned is you can't avoid Medicare.

The map ledger -

Aetna: NJ, FL, DC, NY, OH, PA, NV, AZ, GA, MD, WI, CT, KS, MO, NE, AR, AK

Blue Cross Blue Shield: TX, IL, CA, CO, WA, MA, MI, IN, NC, MN, UT, VA, LA, TN, HI, OK, SC, ID, SD, IA, ME, NM, RI, OR, MT, DE, KY, AL, VT, WY, MS, WV, ND, NH
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Old 10-11-2015 | 08:57 AM
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I haven't had a chance to look, is the Kaiser permanentee option gone now?
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Old 10-12-2015 | 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by El10
I voted for him, and proud that we now have expanded health care. If I pay a small tax that helps others get coverage that they could not afford otherwise, so be it.
You don't get moral bonus points for legislating others peoples money.
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