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01-02-2016 | 03:33 PM
#121
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From: guppy CA
01-02-2016 | 05:18 PM
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No voters are gaining momentum, just sayin.
IT aint over and i wont concede u til after the vote closes.
Huge no push from the widebody guys, both fo and captains who see the differences inmthe current operation of,what will happen etc.
IT aint over and i wont concede u til after the vote closes.
Huge no push from the widebody guys, both fo and captains who see the differences inmthe current operation of,what will happen etc.
01-02-2016 | 07:23 PM
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Stop spending too much time at the UAL Forum.
94% participation
72 % yes
28 % no
Vegas numbers
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01-02-2016 | 07:25 PM
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It's like Sally Struthers used to say...."do you wanna make more money? Sure, we all do". Vote yes.
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01-03-2016 | 05:29 PM
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Excellent summary of what??
This is an extension of the best contract of any major...have you looked at Deltas and Americans work rules???
This is an extension that gives us the pay plus the same profit sharing we have now...a year before the TA becomes amendable...and before we go to protracted section 6 negotiations...this TA puts us ahead of all our peers NOW...not 3 or 4 years from now...
Instead some of you here want to throw the dice on an idea that we can get above the 18% we are getting plus make up what we will lose in lost earnings from now until we sign your Unicorn contract....Unicorns don't exist...this TA exist...it is real...it is here..now...wake up!!!
This is an extension of the best contract of any major...have you looked at Deltas and Americans work rules???
This is an extension that gives us the pay plus the same profit sharing we have now...a year before the TA becomes amendable...and before we go to protracted section 6 negotiations...this TA puts us ahead of all our peers NOW...not 3 or 4 years from now...
Instead some of you here want to throw the dice on an idea that we can get above the 18% we are getting plus make up what we will lose in lost earnings from now until we sign your Unicorn contract....Unicorns don't exist...this TA exist...it is real...it is here..now...wake up!!!
Do folks actually believe the company will make our contract a priority before 2018 if we vote "No"?
We have a contract...they are offering an extension that addresses our previously Furlough brothers/sisters, some pay and a few other things. Nothing is perfect, but maybe as unified pilot group during the next round will finally bring "sunshines, lollipops and rainbows."
01-03-2016 | 06:44 PM
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Hear, Hear! Explain to me how an extension will harm our way of life for the next 3-years?
Do folks actually believe the company will make our contract a priority before 2018 if we vote "No"?
We have a contract...they are offering an extension that addresses our previously Furlough brothers/sisters, some pay and a few other things. Nothing is perfect, but maybe as unified pilot group during the next round will finally bring "sunshines, lollipops and rainbows."
Do folks actually believe the company will make our contract a priority before 2018 if we vote "No"?
We have a contract...they are offering an extension that addresses our previously Furlough brothers/sisters, some pay and a few other things. Nothing is perfect, but maybe as unified pilot group during the next round will finally bring "sunshines, lollipops and rainbows."
Oh, and we'll get'em next time. Sure thing money bags.
01-03-2016 | 07:39 PM
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I strongly disagree that correcting LOA 25 in this agreement is using our previously furloughed brothers and sisters as pawns. If we were to assume that were true, the only way to NOT use them as pawns would be to keep an LOA 25 out of the discussion? This appears to me to be a "no good deed goes unpunished" situation. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
01-04-2016 | 12:39 AM
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I think this is a prime example of why the NSNB order was removed from the negotiations. It would be viewed by many as a carrot, and the fear would be that SJS would woo many pilots to vote "yes" on an agreement that otherwise would be voted down because it didn't stand on its own merit.
I strongly disagree that correcting LOA 25 in this agreement is using our previously furloughed brothers and sisters as pawns. If we were to assume that were true, the only way to NOT use them as pawns would be to keep an LOA 25 out of the discussion? This appears to me to be a "no good deed goes unpunished" situation. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
I strongly disagree that correcting LOA 25 in this agreement is using our previously furloughed brothers and sisters as pawns. If we were to assume that were true, the only way to NOT use them as pawns would be to keep an LOA 25 out of the discussion? This appears to me to be a "no good deed goes unpunished" situation. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
LOA25 is a rounding error for this multi-billion dollar corporation but they are most definitely using it to ram this extension through.
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