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Old 01-05-2016 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SOTeric
Yes.

Get in now while it's on the table. This corporation will not put it back on the table for several years.

Break you off a piece while you can.
Yep, I think I will buy a new ski-condo up at Tahoe with my "chump change".
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Old 01-05-2016 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ron kent
Yep, I think I will buy a new ski-condo up at Tahoe with my "chump change".
See you there!
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Old 01-05-2016 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
Accept a pay raise for little or nothing in return? Yep, this is costing us nothing. U#b!
"Accept a pay raise for little or nothing in return."

Hmmmm.........
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Old 01-05-2016 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ron kent
I think I will buy a new ski-condo up at Tahoe with my "chump change".
Please send us a photo of that "new ski-condo" and where it is located in "Tahoe."
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Old 01-05-2016 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SOTeric
This corporation will not put it back on the table for several years.
This is the third time in less than a year that the company has tried to get reliable FDP extensions and the second time they have tried to fix their FRMS problem in nine months. They also got FRMS carte blanc from the LCAL F/As in return for profit sharing a few months ago, and they have the 787s that can profitably service these lucrative point to point international markets. But, "This corporation will not put it back on the table for several years."

Management wishes all, or at least 50.1%, of their union members thought like you.
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Old 01-05-2016 | 01:00 PM
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72% yes. 28% no. Even the hard core "Hoffa" UAL forum is at 48% yes. Man...I'm gonna go ahead and schedule that new pool for summer!
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Old 01-05-2016 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jsled
Even the hard core "Hoffa" UAL forum is at 48% yes.
"Hoffa UAL forum"? Yet another airline pilot who obviously doesn't have a clue about unionism, but benefits from it nonetheless. Enjoy the 13%, 0% & 3% pay raises.
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Old 01-05-2016 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Flytolive
"Hoffa UAL forum"? Yet another airline pilot who obviously doesn't have a clue about unionism, but benefits from it nonetheless. Enjoy the 13%, 0% & 3% pay raises.
Unionism. You mean like the widebody Captain with less than 2 yrs left who said he's voting against it because the whole contract needs to be fixed?
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Old 01-05-2016 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by b52dthdlr
Why did you ignore the point where all furloughees are immediately elevated to 12th year pay and the 39 or so million they get in back pay (made whole). Did you want to point out that I was mostly right? "carry on"
I ignored it because I'm not debating you. Vote however you want and proselytize away.

I just didn't want any new hires to think they had furlough protection based on your misstatement (aka mostly right).

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Old 01-05-2016 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
Just to clarify, there is absolutely NOT a no-furlough clause in the TA (or the UPA).

UA can furlough all they want as long as the 76 seat RJs have 6 seats removed. Would it make UA think twice? Perhaps. But in a downturn demand is probably reduced anyway.

All the TA does is change the "trigger" to all pilots currently on the list and not just the pilots on the list at the time of the UPA.

Is this an improvement? Yes.

Is this a no-furlough clause? No.

Carry on.
I would bet that almost every furloughed major airline pilot in the last 20 years was protected by a "no furlough" clause.

They mean nothing.
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