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Old 08-04-2016, 11:20 AM
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That's the issue. There shouldn't be any sides going forward.
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What is more interesting in Hutchins letter is what he did not say. He did not say, that he would fight to get that 100 million back into the pockets of those who paid the premiums, taxes and dues on it.

He did make oblique references about what could not be done with the money- according to him.

I feel if he really believes what he said, then he should go ahead and declare that he will work to get that money back to us.

Whether he intends to try and have that money used to fund a new LTD or just not address the issue makes no difference if he does not promise to fight to get it back to the pilots from whom it was paid.

He may have said that he does not believe that money can be used for any other purpose, but he didn't say he would fight the company to get it back, rather than " address it again in??? years- when many of us will be dead.
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Old 08-04-2016, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BMEP100 View Post
What is more interesting in Hutchins letter is what he did not say. He did not say, that he would fight to get that 100 million back into the pockets of those who paid the premiums, taxes and dues on it.
Ummm....did you read the same letter???

I noticed he even used the word "fight."

"There ARE outstanding issues with that plan, but if Captain Cummins can't even understand those issues he is never going to be able to fix them. Any reasonable accounting of that LCAL LTD plan shows that there is more money in it than there needs to be. But the problems with that plan are HOW MUCH needs to be returned and WHEN. Nobody disputes WHO gets those funds; not the company, not ALPA and certainly not me. I will fight to make "how much" as much as possible and "when" as soon as possible. "Who" gets the money are the pilots who paid the premiums, no one else."
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Ummm....did you read the same letter???

I noticed he even used the word "fight."

"There ARE outstanding issues with that plan, but if Captain Cummins can't even understand those issues he is never going to be able to fix them. Any reasonable accounting of that LCAL LTD plan shows that there is more money in it than there needs to be. But the problems with that plan are HOW MUCH needs to be returned and WHEN. Nobody disputes WHO gets those funds; not the company, not ALPA and certainly not me. I will fight to make "how much" as much as possible and "when" as soon as possible. "Who" gets the money are the pilots who paid the premiums, no one else."
You can't fix stupid.
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr View Post
Ummm....did you read the same letter???

I noticed he even used the word "fight."

"There ARE outstanding issues with that plan, but if Captain Cummins can't even understand those issues he is never going to be able to fix them. Any reasonable accounting of that LCAL LTD plan shows that there is more money in it than there needs to be. But the problems with that plan are HOW MUCH needs to be returned and WHEN. Nobody disputes WHO gets those funds; not the company, not ALPA and certainly not me. I will fight to make "how much" as much as possible and "when" as soon as possible. "Who" gets the money are the pilots who paid the premiums, no one else."
Where did you copy that from? Sounds as if he disputes the amount Cummins and others claim, but he does not put an amount on it.
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Where did you copy that from?
Hutchens letter that was posted by Flyguppy just a couple of posts before yours in this very thread (post #79).
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Where did you copy that from? Sounds as if he disputes the amount Cummins and others claim, but he does not put an amount on it.
It's not Cummins and others claiming it. It's just him. He pulled the numbers out of his ass and is trying to use lies to hopefully get enough uninformed people scared enough to vote for him. All the info is available on the ALPA site. The document has been available on the MEC R&I website since October 2015. Attached to it is a letter from Polsinelli Law Firm dated JAN 2016. CC is a raving lunatic hoping to use lies that nobody will verify before the election closes.

Everyone who attended the last LC 171 meeting knows that what CC is trying to spout is BS. MEC R&I briefed what the latest was. Feel free to contact any member and ask for yourself instead of taking the word of someone desperately trying to grasp at straws.
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Fellow Houston pilots,

My name is Brad Hutchens and I'm asking for your nomination in the upcoming Council 171 Captain Representative election. It's somber the circumstances that necessitated this vote, but I can't think of a better way to honor Captain Jeff Bohl than to continue the work he started. The council has made terrific strides forward in terms of organization, communication, and responsiveness to pilots, and I believe that I can keep that momentum moving forward. I have a good working relationship with Nic and Jamie, and I feel that will serve the council well moving forward.

I've been at United for twenty-one years. As a new hire I was a flight engineer on the 727, and since then I've flown as a First Officer on the 737, 757 and 767, as well as Captain on the Airbus. I am currently a Houston-based Airbus Captain and I flew the 756 in Houston before that. I live locally in The Woodlands with my wife Meridith, daughter Lindsay and son Ryan. My brother Scot is also a United pilot here in Houston, having flown the 737 and now 777.

Currently I'm the Local Schedule Committee Chairman for Council 171. I served as the C12 Local Schedule Committee Chairman in ORD for a number of years before helping setup the new Houston LSC in 2013. I was a volunteer on the original contract hotline (similar to the UDO program), and I helped train the furloughees who were hired to staff the second iteration of the hotline (UPAAS). I've been doing scheduling work for ALPA for almost ten years as well as serving on the MEC Grievance Review Panel for the last 4 years.

I believe that a union rep's job is one of service and that every member deserves representation. Helping fellow pilots is an honor, and it's is why I've done the work in the past. If I'm elected I'll answer every voicemail, text or email within 24 hours. If there is another resource within ALPA that can fix your issue better, or in a more timely manner than I can, I'll make sure you get that assistance.

Council 171 is the second largest council in UAL ALPA. It is imperative that your voice and your priorities are heard and understood at the MEC. I will ensure that they are.

When you receive your ballot, I humbly ask you write in my name, sign and return.

Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions, comments or concerns.

Thank you for your support!
Captain Brad Hutchens
This was the letter from him I referred to. Didn't realize flyguppy was posting his letters without quote.

However, what bothers me about his reference to the fund in this letter is that he does not know or either agrees with the company's position about how much and when which the current MEC basically said -oh well; that's that.

What I would want to hear from anyone wanting the job is a thorough knowledge of the how much and a declaration that he disagrees with the company position on it. Instead there is a vague reference to his opponent not knowing the issues.
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There is a beeeeeg difference in supporting what you want to hear vs the unvarnished, unbiased truth you should hear. I guess you haven't learned from past experiences.
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Originally Posted by BMEP100 View Post
This was the letter from him I referred to. Didn't realize flyguppy was posting his letters without quote.

However, what bothers me about his reference to the fund in this letter is that he does not know or either agrees with the company's position about how much and when which the current MEC basically said -oh well; that's that.

What I would want to hear from anyone wanting the job is a thorough knowledge of the how much and a declaration that he disagrees with the company position on it. Instead there is a vague reference to his opponent not knowing the issues.
Cummins if full of hot air. Ask for ONE single reference. He has been asked multiple times on the other forum and he just says people told him. He can't produce one single shred of evidence to support his claims. Hell my teens know, screen shot or it didn't happen.
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