C-171 CA Rep election
07-22-2016, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by UALinIAH
Honestly, Yes. Big shocker but there were a TON of LCAL guys who are on the 787 and they're both so junior that they have a lot of new people from both sides as well as a ton of post merge. Again, I fly with all 3 types and rarely does legacy even come up (except for the double furloughees when I ask how long they've been here). ORD may be the last holdout. And that is more from the fact that they have a great group of unionist already on the LEC. I don't give a rats ass who hired you, or when you were hired. We're all on the same list doing the same job. Want to pull the L XXX line, cool. Yank my gear and don't miss a radio call. Goes for either side. We all have a past. And it's that, the past.
Perhaps the former CAL bases are more progressive in allowing former UAL types to be elected into Union positions but you'll never see that on the west coast.
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07-22-2016, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
I'll say it again, after speaking with many former L-UAL Pilots in both SFO & LAX, there's absolutely no way a CAL Pilot would EVER be elected in either base. The sole reason given is always the same, because they were CAL.
Perhaps the former CAL bases are more progressive in allowing former UAL types to be elected into Union positions but you'll never see that in your on the west coast.
Perhaps the former CAL bases are more progressive in allowing former UAL types to be elected into Union positions but you'll never see that in your on the west coast.
07-22-2016, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
I'll say it again, after speaking with many former L-UAL Pilots in both SFO & LAX, there's absolutely no way a CAL Pilot would EVER be elected in either base. The sole reason given is always the same, because they were CAL.
Perhaps the former CAL bases are more progressive in allowing former UAL types to be elected into Union positions but you'll never see that on the west coast.
Perhaps the former CAL bases are more progressive in allowing former UAL types to be elected into Union positions but you'll never see that on the west coast.
07-22-2016, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
What a joke. It's all about who's best for the job. Period. We'll never move forward with this us versus them mentality.
08-02-2016, 04:53 PM
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Fellow Houston Pilots,
The Captain Representative you elect will help shape our opener for section six negotiations with the company. With a decade of scheduling experience, I will bring a unique perspective to the table and will make sure your priorities are heard. Below are a few issues, among many, that need to be addressed.
PBS improvements- We have many free resources available for pilots to improve their PBS bid, yet many still feel the need to pay for bidding help. We need an improved bidding interface, more bidding options and we need to move the bidding window earlier so pilots can plan their lives.
Trip Trade improvements-What PBS can't do for us, Trip Trade should be able to fix. Many of the improvements we need are things that we have had in our contracts already. Returning to a "bad day worse day" logic, improved IT to track reserves in silo (transparent to CM and pilots alike), and relaxing coverage limitations on the first TT run of the month are all examples of options we used to have and were proven effective in past contracts. These are all things that the company, and the pilots, have seen work in the past. They should be brought back.
Reserve Improvements-Reserve improvements need to be at the top of the MEC's agenda. Rolling of days off and abuse of SCs must be reigned in so pilots have some predictability in their lives. Automation enhancements are needed to reduce or eliminate contact with scheduling where feasible.
L-CAL LTD Fund-An issue that is near and dear to many Houston pilots is the L-CAL LTD fund. I was in favor of the LC171 resolution that sought the return of those monies to the plan participants when we originally sent that resolution to the MEC, and I am firmly committed to returning that money to the plan participants as soon as possible. Another common question about the L-CAL LTD funds regards their distribution. Section 12.2 paragraph (a) of the plan document very clearly states that any distribution from the fund can only go to the pilots that paid the premiums (the plan participants). That is set in stone, as it should be. You can access the Plan document on the MEC R&I website at http://ual.alpa.org/LinkClick.aspx?file ... &mid=29533
Your union representatives constantly deal with issues that effect your work life. Some of those issues, as a line pilot, you might only encounter once or twice in a career. Others might effect your work life on a daily basis. You deserve a Captain Representative that will do the research on ALL those issues, whether they are minor or complicated. With that knowledge your rep can make informed decisions and, in turn, inform and educate you so that we can each make the best decisions possible about our careers. I pledge to do just that if you elect me.
I would be honored to continue serving all of you as Captain Representative. Please vote today at http://www3.alpa.org/VoteNet/tabid/6263/Default.aspx.
Brad Hutchens
LC 171 Interim Captain Representative
The Captain Representative you elect will help shape our opener for section six negotiations with the company. With a decade of scheduling experience, I will bring a unique perspective to the table and will make sure your priorities are heard. Below are a few issues, among many, that need to be addressed.
PBS improvements- We have many free resources available for pilots to improve their PBS bid, yet many still feel the need to pay for bidding help. We need an improved bidding interface, more bidding options and we need to move the bidding window earlier so pilots can plan their lives.
Trip Trade improvements-What PBS can't do for us, Trip Trade should be able to fix. Many of the improvements we need are things that we have had in our contracts already. Returning to a "bad day worse day" logic, improved IT to track reserves in silo (transparent to CM and pilots alike), and relaxing coverage limitations on the first TT run of the month are all examples of options we used to have and were proven effective in past contracts. These are all things that the company, and the pilots, have seen work in the past. They should be brought back.
Reserve Improvements-Reserve improvements need to be at the top of the MEC's agenda. Rolling of days off and abuse of SCs must be reigned in so pilots have some predictability in their lives. Automation enhancements are needed to reduce or eliminate contact with scheduling where feasible.
L-CAL LTD Fund-An issue that is near and dear to many Houston pilots is the L-CAL LTD fund. I was in favor of the LC171 resolution that sought the return of those monies to the plan participants when we originally sent that resolution to the MEC, and I am firmly committed to returning that money to the plan participants as soon as possible. Another common question about the L-CAL LTD funds regards their distribution. Section 12.2 paragraph (a) of the plan document very clearly states that any distribution from the fund can only go to the pilots that paid the premiums (the plan participants). That is set in stone, as it should be. You can access the Plan document on the MEC R&I website at http://ual.alpa.org/LinkClick.aspx?file ... &mid=29533
Your union representatives constantly deal with issues that effect your work life. Some of those issues, as a line pilot, you might only encounter once or twice in a career. Others might effect your work life on a daily basis. You deserve a Captain Representative that will do the research on ALL those issues, whether they are minor or complicated. With that knowledge your rep can make informed decisions and, in turn, inform and educate you so that we can each make the best decisions possible about our careers. I pledge to do just that if you elect me.
I would be honored to continue serving all of you as Captain Representative. Please vote today at http://www3.alpa.org/VoteNet/tabid/6263/Default.aspx.
Brad Hutchens
LC 171 Interim Captain Representative
08-02-2016, 04:55 PM
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LTD Update: Houston LC 171 Captain Rep Election - Captain Chuck Cummins
Up to $28,000 tax-free RETURNED to every L-CAL pilot...
The most defining issue in the election for LC 171 Captain Representative is resolution of the L-CAL LTD Trust Fund. The only way we will ever fight to get OUR LTD money is by electing me, Captain Chuck Cummins, as your Captain Representative. The alternative is that YOUR money--money that you earned and on which you paid taxes--WILL be shared as the basis for the new plan. You WILL NOT SEE A DIME UNLESS YOU WERE ON LTD AT THE TIME OF THE MERGER. In other words, you are donating your assets for the benefit of the majority without a vote. This cannot happen, and I am prepared to fight. Here are the facts that have been vetted through two very respected attorneys who are well-versed in these issues:
1. Pre-Merger Continental Pilots were paying into an LTD plan that had CASH VALUE. It was similar to a whole life insurance policy where the pilots paid taxes on all contributions they and the company made on the pilots’ behalf.
2. Pre-Merger United Pilots were not paying into a plan with a cash value. In fact, they were not paying into an LTD plan as their LTD was company funded, like a term insurance policy.
3. At the date of merger the Continental Pilots LTD plan was valued at about $100 Million. The United Pilots LTD plan had a value of $0.
4. The opinion of highly respected legal counsel is that at merger The Continental Pilots Long Term Disability plan was TERMINATED. Therefore, the proceeds of the plan should have been used to purchase an annuity for the 155 Continental Pilots who were on LTD as of that date. The remaining balance should have been paid out to the Continental Pilot plan participants who were already taxed on their contributions.
5. Met-Life is one of the only companies capable of doing a structured settlement of this size. The plan participants would give Met-Life the $100 Million. Met-Life would purchase an annuity for $29 Million (the actuarial amount needed to cover the remaining 155 Continental Pilots on the LCAL LTD for the life of their careers including the possibility of increasing mandatory retirement age.) Then, Met-Life would pay out the balance to The Continental Pilot Plan Participants relieving the company of any liability going forward.
6. Rest assured, this is not the Continental Pilots against the Union. It is the Continental Pilots against the management. Interestingly, there is NO way ALPA will ever get dues money on the return of insurance over-payments made by pilots. ALPA, it seems, wants the money to go to the new LTD plan. However, this money had dues and taxes paid at the time it was deducted from L-CAL pilots’ payroll and it rightfully needs to go back to the L-CAL pilots.
7. Today, management makes all the decisions about this LTD plan. They thank us for paying the taxes on this pool of money as it grows. And, they plan to keep it until they decide do something with your $100 Million!
Well, that decision was just made at the last MEC meeting. As my competitor, Brad Hutchens, stated in his campaign letter, he led a movement to increase the monthly LTD cap from $8,000 to $11,000. While that is a necessary move, management should be held accountable to fund this increase. Instead, YOUR $100 Million CAL LTD money will lay the foundation benefitting not just you, but all United pilots! And, my competitor, Brad Hutchens, is doing this right in front of you! Interestingly, he didn't mention the approximately $28,000 tax-free money that would be taken from every L-CAL pilot plan participant to fund this increase.
I’ve tried to paraphrase all that was explained to me. There may be more or less; however, it is too big of an issue to merely let fade away. As your Captain Representative, I vow to fight to the end of my term to return your money to you. This is pre-merger money that belongs to the rightful benefactors. I ask all United Pilots to stand with us to refund this LTD trust fund. Then I ask all of us to stand together to raise the monthly benefits and improve our LTD program for all United Pilots.
Remember, if you have already voted, you can change your vote at any time up until 10:00am, August 10. Thank you for your attention. Please vote for Captain Chuck Cummins for LC 171 Captain Representative.
Breaking news: With the possible closure of CLE L-CAL pilots will now lose even more representation at the MEC. My election to the MEC is more important than ever if you want to ensure your voice is heard.
Fraternally,
Chuck Cummins
The election is now open for all members in good standing in LC 171 including First Officers. Simply log into the Members Only section ofwww.alpa.org with your seven-digit ALPA number and password. On the left hand side of your member home page, select the link under My Alerts to access the ballot and vote in the LC 171 election that remains open until August 10, 2016. If you’ve forgotten your password, call (888) FLY-ALPAand press “3.”
Remember: You can change your vote at any time. Don't miss this last chance to have an L-CAL pilot in there fighting for what is yours.
Up to $28,000 tax-free RETURNED to every L-CAL pilot...
The most defining issue in the election for LC 171 Captain Representative is resolution of the L-CAL LTD Trust Fund. The only way we will ever fight to get OUR LTD money is by electing me, Captain Chuck Cummins, as your Captain Representative. The alternative is that YOUR money--money that you earned and on which you paid taxes--WILL be shared as the basis for the new plan. You WILL NOT SEE A DIME UNLESS YOU WERE ON LTD AT THE TIME OF THE MERGER. In other words, you are donating your assets for the benefit of the majority without a vote. This cannot happen, and I am prepared to fight. Here are the facts that have been vetted through two very respected attorneys who are well-versed in these issues:
1. Pre-Merger Continental Pilots were paying into an LTD plan that had CASH VALUE. It was similar to a whole life insurance policy where the pilots paid taxes on all contributions they and the company made on the pilots’ behalf.
2. Pre-Merger United Pilots were not paying into a plan with a cash value. In fact, they were not paying into an LTD plan as their LTD was company funded, like a term insurance policy.
3. At the date of merger the Continental Pilots LTD plan was valued at about $100 Million. The United Pilots LTD plan had a value of $0.
4. The opinion of highly respected legal counsel is that at merger The Continental Pilots Long Term Disability plan was TERMINATED. Therefore, the proceeds of the plan should have been used to purchase an annuity for the 155 Continental Pilots who were on LTD as of that date. The remaining balance should have been paid out to the Continental Pilot plan participants who were already taxed on their contributions.
5. Met-Life is one of the only companies capable of doing a structured settlement of this size. The plan participants would give Met-Life the $100 Million. Met-Life would purchase an annuity for $29 Million (the actuarial amount needed to cover the remaining 155 Continental Pilots on the LCAL LTD for the life of their careers including the possibility of increasing mandatory retirement age.) Then, Met-Life would pay out the balance to The Continental Pilot Plan Participants relieving the company of any liability going forward.
6. Rest assured, this is not the Continental Pilots against the Union. It is the Continental Pilots against the management. Interestingly, there is NO way ALPA will ever get dues money on the return of insurance over-payments made by pilots. ALPA, it seems, wants the money to go to the new LTD plan. However, this money had dues and taxes paid at the time it was deducted from L-CAL pilots’ payroll and it rightfully needs to go back to the L-CAL pilots.
7. Today, management makes all the decisions about this LTD plan. They thank us for paying the taxes on this pool of money as it grows. And, they plan to keep it until they decide do something with your $100 Million!
Well, that decision was just made at the last MEC meeting. As my competitor, Brad Hutchens, stated in his campaign letter, he led a movement to increase the monthly LTD cap from $8,000 to $11,000. While that is a necessary move, management should be held accountable to fund this increase. Instead, YOUR $100 Million CAL LTD money will lay the foundation benefitting not just you, but all United pilots! And, my competitor, Brad Hutchens, is doing this right in front of you! Interestingly, he didn't mention the approximately $28,000 tax-free money that would be taken from every L-CAL pilot plan participant to fund this increase.
I’ve tried to paraphrase all that was explained to me. There may be more or less; however, it is too big of an issue to merely let fade away. As your Captain Representative, I vow to fight to the end of my term to return your money to you. This is pre-merger money that belongs to the rightful benefactors. I ask all United Pilots to stand with us to refund this LTD trust fund. Then I ask all of us to stand together to raise the monthly benefits and improve our LTD program for all United Pilots.
Remember, if you have already voted, you can change your vote at any time up until 10:00am, August 10. Thank you for your attention. Please vote for Captain Chuck Cummins for LC 171 Captain Representative.
Breaking news: With the possible closure of CLE L-CAL pilots will now lose even more representation at the MEC. My election to the MEC is more important than ever if you want to ensure your voice is heard.
Fraternally,
Chuck Cummins
The election is now open for all members in good standing in LC 171 including First Officers. Simply log into the Members Only section ofwww.alpa.org with your seven-digit ALPA number and password. On the left hand side of your member home page, select the link under My Alerts to access the ballot and vote in the LC 171 election that remains open until August 10, 2016. If you’ve forgotten your password, call (888) FLY-ALPAand press “3.”
Remember: You can change your vote at any time. Don't miss this last chance to have an L-CAL pilot in there fighting for what is yours.
08-02-2016, 05:03 PM
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LTD Update: Houston LC 171 Captain Rep Election - Captain Chuck Cummins.....
"Remember: You can change your vote at any time. Don't miss this last chance to have an L-CAL pilot in there fighting for what is yours."
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"Remember: You can change your vote at any time. Don't miss this last chance to have an L-CAL pilot in there fighting for what is yours."
Simple Definition of divisive
: causing a lot of disagreement between people and causing them to separate into different groups
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