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06-23-2016 | 04:28 AM
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Just to clarify, any category that has enough people bid out HAS to back fill up to the MIN number. The company has the option to then backfill any others that bid out resulting in a number between then MIN and MAX. They can not go over the MAX number.
06-23-2016 | 04:42 AM
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The backfills in the 737 just means things are finally starting to move there.....folks bidding off.
Just want that to be clear before the inevitable "conspiracy" crap starts up from people like Salley and the like.
06-23-2016 | 06:57 AM
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So, don't be enamored of the min/max numbers too much, they set them where ever and may not mean much of anything. Has to back fill? Only if they want to. As many have seen, there doesn't seem to be a real staffing model or logic to what they do.
06-23-2016 | 07:50 AM
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That doesn't work because of the merger and disparity between DOH and seniority. A good analogy is that at the current rate we are within 2 years of the post merger hires being Captains. And not on a 100 seat jet like some other airlines that have 2 year Captains.
The 1,100 number is correct.
But if you have to know the junior Captains are Feb 2000 UAL and Sep 2007 CAL basically Airbus SFO, and 737s SFO and EWR with 65 737-700s and more A-319s on the way not to mention all the "jumbo" planes being delivered.
The 1,100 number is correct.
But if you have to know the junior Captains are Feb 2000 UAL and Sep 2007 CAL basically Airbus SFO, and 737s SFO and EWR with 65 737-700s and more A-319s on the way not to mention all the "jumbo" planes being delivered.
06-23-2016 | 08:01 AM
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But, just to clarify, these numbers are whatever the company wants them to be. There used to be staffing rules in old contracts. Now, it's whatever the company wants.
So, don't be enamored of the min/max numbers too much, they set them where ever and may not mean much of anything. Has to back fill? Only if they want to. As many have seen, there doesn't seem to be a real staffing model or logic to what they do.
So, don't be enamored of the min/max numbers too much, they set them where ever and may not mean much of anything. Has to back fill? Only if they want to. As many have seen, there doesn't seem to be a real staffing model or logic to what they do.
It may not look like they know what they are doing, but it's an art form to do it given the number of variables involved.
At least that was the explanation I was given.
06-23-2016 | 09:36 AM
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But, just to clarify, these numbers are whatever the company wants them to be. There used to be staffing rules in old contracts. Now, it's whatever the company wants.
So, don't be enamored of the min/max numbers too much, they set them where ever and may not mean much of anything. Has to back fill? Only if they want to. As many have seen, there doesn't seem to be a real staffing model or logic to what they do.
So, don't be enamored of the min/max numbers too much, they set them where ever and may not mean much of anything. Has to back fill? Only if they want to. As many have seen, there doesn't seem to be a real staffing model or logic to what they do.
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