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Old 10-29-2016 | 05:03 AM
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1. Do you get paid an extra hour on, or is it after the third unused short call?

2. Any pay associated with the 4th, 5th, 6th unused short call?

3. How is the pay shown or documented?
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Old 10-29-2016 | 05:06 AM
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After the third. 4 and 5 are paid, 6 when scheduling assigned all previous short calls. MPG increase by the 8th of the next month.
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Old 10-29-2016 | 05:27 AM
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3-C-1-b-(1)-(a) and (b)...
You get paid for the 3rd on...
You should see it by the 8th on the pay page in CCS
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Old 10-29-2016 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Terrain Inop
After the third. 4 and 5 are paid, 6 when scheduling assigned all previous short calls. MPG increase by the 8th of the next month.
Incorrect. After 2 unused short call or field stbys in a bid period, your MPG shall increase by 1 hour for each of the next 3.

When a reserve has reached 5 total SC or FSB in a bid period, your MPG will only increase if they are assigned to you.

3-C-1-b-(1)-(a) & (b)
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Old 10-29-2016 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyHIGHgoFAST
Incorrect. After 2 unused short call or field stbys in a bid period, your MPG shall increase by 1 hour for each of the next 3.

When a reserve has reached 5 total SC or FSB in a bid period, your MPG will only increase if they are assigned to you.

3-C-1-b-(1)-(a) & (b)
Unless IT has fixed that SC pay, you will be paid for every unused SC AFTER 2. I speak from experience. The issue to watch is getting a SC assignment, and at some point early into the 14 hour block, you are released and assigned a trip that BEGINS outside of your originally assigned SC block. It will not show up as an UNUSED SC but it actually is an unused SC. IVE filed a PDR and was told IT is working to correct.
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Old 10-29-2016 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by krudawg
Unless IT has fixed that SC pay, you will be paid for every unused SC AFTER 2. I speak from experience. The issue to watch is getting a SC assignment, and at some point early into the 14 hour block, you are released and assigned a trip that BEGINS outside of your originally assigned SC block. It will not show up as an UNUSED SC but it actually is an unused SC. IVE filed a PDR and was told IT is working to correct.
Close, but you might want to read the contract again.

An “unused”SC assignment is any short call that reaches the 14 hour limit or is canceled and where the pilot did not receive either a FSB with no intervening duty break, or did not receive an assignment departing within 13 hours from the time the assignment is given.

As to the MPG credit after the 5th, I've heard guys getting the credit even when the pilot picked it up, so that isn't something I'd count on but is happening.

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Old 10-29-2016 | 07:50 AM
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Another wrinkle...the UPA says 1 hour of pay after the 5th ASSIGNED short call (not picked up). So if the company were paying like the contract says, you could pick up 5 short calls for 3 hours of pay, 3-C-1-b-(1)-(a), but not receive any more pay until after you were assigned 6 additional short calls. Read the contract.


3-C-1-b-(1)-(b) When a Reserve has five (5) unused Short Call and/or Field Standby assignments in a Bid Period that were assigned to him (that is, not picked up), his MPG shall increase by one (1) hour for each subsequent unused Short Call or Field Standby assignment that is also assigned to him.
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Old 10-29-2016 | 11:29 AM
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They have a hard time differentiating between assigned and picked up shortcalls so they just pay them. Any unused after #2 is add pay.
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Old 10-29-2016 | 11:44 AM
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Its not add pay ! it only counts towards your MPG. Big Difference.
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Old 10-29-2016 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by All In
Its not add pay ! it only counts towards your MPG. Big Difference.
Don't think so.

"his MPG shall increase by one (1) hour for each subsequent unused Short Call"
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