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Old 03-17-2017, 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ShutUpNFly View Post
You can only "sell it back" at 5 hours per day if you actually fly your line as is. Wouldn't be leaving early in that case....
I was unclear. I was stating if you are retiring and what the money for your vacation.
If you you retire with unused vacation it is only going to be paid at 3 hours a day.
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Old 03-17-2017, 09:55 AM
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Are the mandatory retirements listed on the Airline Pilot Central UPS page accurate? Are there really 400+ pilots retiring in 2031? It looks like 90% of the current pilots will have to retire in 20 years with the numbers provided.
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by GF22
Are there really 400+ pilots retiring in 2031?
No.

On 1 March 2017 there were 2642 IPA pilots on the seniority list.

There are 1045 mandatory Age 65 retirements through end of 2027, 1561 through the end of 2030, 2141 through the end of 2035, and 2302 through the end of 2037.

Systemwide junior CA typically runs about 65%, although in the big bid last December the junior CA award was around 75% at that time.
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Old 03-17-2017, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GF22 View Post
Are the mandatory retirements listed on the Airline Pilot Central UPS page accurate? Are there really 400+ pilots retiring in 2031? It looks like 90% of the current pilots will have to retire in 20 years with the numbers provided.
No, the correct number for 2031 is 132 (as of March 2017).


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Old 03-18-2017, 02:23 AM
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The UPS page on this site has had some erroneous info in the last few months. It previously had indicated our contract ratification bonus was a signing bonus for new hires. Several friends looking for jobs called and asked me about it. The site just corrected that a month ago. Not sure where the retirement numbers came from.
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Old 03-19-2017, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Whaledrivr View Post
I don't believe the 'early retirements' will be substantial at all. This is my 3rd contract with UPS, every time the old guys say the same thing, "if the A Plan increases I'm out of here". I think 3 guys left early in 2006.
Many of these old guys don't have the necessary hobbies to retire early and/or are greedy. They love the money more than living a longer life.
So the first statement of this thread remains accurate. lol-

I said 40-50. And that maybe too optimistic. The reason I started this thread is because you have all these people flying the line making up crazy wishful numbers. Or they heard this from the Van driver. Over a 100 retirements prints ordered, etc.

It's nice to dream, but if you have Captains from day one in 1988 making excuses to stay for medical insurance cost, they aren't leaving early.
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Old 03-19-2017, 04:02 PM
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Was told to me in person by one of the ladies in the ASC the number of placks ordered is in the 80's . Take it for what it's worth.
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Old 03-19-2017, 04:39 PM
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Revising my guess down to 38 for apr. The rumors vs the facts just dont add up. Guess peeps are counting on lots of "on the spot" retiements.
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Old 03-19-2017, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Commando View Post
It's nice to dream, but if you have Captains from day one in 1988 making excuses to stay for medical insurance cost, they aren't leaving early.
I saw the same thing over on the b!tch and gripe... UFB that "medical costs" are being thrown out there as a reason not to retire.

$120k a year A fund and many years in left seat to prepare for life beyond. We got into this knowing that 60 should be the target and now medical is the next excuse for poor planning. $10k a year or less.... REALLY!?!?

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Old 03-19-2017, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Capt TedStriker View Post
Fly til you die - - biatches.
I left the company that pioneered this concept. When your FO celebrates his 76th birthday with you at the Hilton Garden Inn, Jacksonville... well you get what Im saying.
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