First year pay
03-22-2020, 08:22 AM
#232
The NeverEnding Story
Joined APC: Sep 2005
Posts: 7,512
Originally Posted by FTv3
I’d be careful at this company dropping any significant amount of flying first year. Doesn’t look good and the complete opposite of what the company is looking for in a employee. Yes, guys are doing it without issue but it’s only a matter of time before it starts to blow up...IMHO. YMMV.
03-22-2020, 08:46 AM
#233
Occasional box hauler
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,683
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
So long as people consolidate and maintain currency, how could it "blow up" for people to utilize their Article 13 contractual right (which extends to probationary members) to drop trips via TripBoard?
03-22-2020, 08:54 AM
#234
The NeverEnding Story
Joined APC: Sep 2005
Posts: 7,512
Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr
The company may want to send a message and a probie has no protection.
Let's be honest here, probies have gotten fired for texting while planes are taxiing and physically fighting each other at the training hotel - nobody has gotten fired for dropping trips on the Trip Board.
Newbies and potential newbies - keeping a low profile is never a bad idea while on probation, but if you show up when you're supposed to show up and do the job the way you're paid to do your job, the company isn't going to be looking for a reason to can you.
03-22-2020, 11:22 AM
#235
Social Media retired.
Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 777
Agreed, but keeping a low profile doesn’t include dropping all your trips every bid period, whether it’s contractual or not. That will get noticed. I could see some nosy manager pulling you in for a talk. Or if you find yourself in a bit of trouble with the company it sure won’t help your cause.
Also,
probation: a trial period during which your character and abilities are tested to see whether you are suitable for work or for membership.
Your first year you bring your A-game: show up early, shine your shoes every day, show them what you’re made of. You don’t drop your entire frigging schedule for the whole year. Im not talking about a trip here and there. Sorry man, your are always a voice of logic and reason but on this one I have to disagree, respectfully. Just not a smart strategy.
Also,
probation: a trial period during which your character and abilities are tested to see whether you are suitable for work or for membership.
Your first year you bring your A-game: show up early, shine your shoes every day, show them what you’re made of. You don’t drop your entire frigging schedule for the whole year. Im not talking about a trip here and there. Sorry man, your are always a voice of logic and reason but on this one I have to disagree, respectfully. Just not a smart strategy.
03-23-2020, 07:15 AM
#236
New Hire
Joined APC: May 2007
Posts: 5
Originally Posted by FTv3
Agreed, but keeping a low profile doesn’t include dropping all your trips every bid period, whether it’s contractual or not. That will get noticed. I could see some nosy manager pulling you in for a talk. Or if you find yourself in a bit of trouble with the company it sure won’t help your cause.
Also,
probation: a trial period during which your character and abilities are tested to see whether you are suitable for work or for membership.
Your first year you bring your A-game: show up early, shine your shoes every day, show them what you’re made of. You don’t drop your entire frigging schedule for the whole year. Im not talking about a trip here and there. Sorry man, your are always a voice of logic and reason but on this one I have to disagree, respectfully. Just not a smart strategy.
Also,
probation: a trial period during which your character and abilities are tested to see whether you are suitable for work or for membership.
Your first year you bring your A-game: show up early, shine your shoes every day, show them what you’re made of. You don’t drop your entire frigging schedule for the whole year. Im not talking about a trip here and there. Sorry man, your are always a voice of logic and reason but on this one I have to disagree, respectfully. Just not a smart strategy.
03-25-2020, 10:19 AM
#237
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2014
Position: F/O
Posts: 135
I’m with Boiler. There’s no evidence whatsoever the company is looking to fire people who drop trips. If anything, it minimizes your exposure. Sure, could it come back to hurt you, sure but that’s true for anything here first year. As the saying goes, “First year they can fire you for anything, after that they can fire you for everything”
Just do you job and keep your head down. If that includes posting trips on the trip board, so be it.
Just do you job and keep your head down. If that includes posting trips on the trip board, so be it.
03-25-2020, 12:03 PM
#238
Occasional box hauler
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,683
Originally Posted by Flybynight101
I’m with Boiler. There’s no evidence whatsoever the company is looking to fire people who drop trips. If anything, it minimizes your exposure. Sure, could it come back to hurt you, sure but that’s true for anything here first year. As the saying goes, “First year they can fire you for anything, after that they can fire you for everything”
Just do you job and keep your head down. If that includes posting trips on the trip board, so be it.
Just do you job and keep your head down. If that includes posting trips on the trip board, so be it.
03-25-2020, 07:33 PM
#239
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,339
Originally Posted by FTv3
Agreed, but keeping a low profile doesn’t include dropping all your trips every bid period, whether it’s contractual or not. That will get noticed. I could see some nosy manager pulling you in for a talk. Or if you find yourself in a bit of trouble with the company it sure won’t help your cause.
Also,
probation: a trial period during which your character and abilities are tested to see whether you are suitable for work or for membership.
Your first year you bring your A-game: show up early, shine your shoes every day, show them what you’re made of. You don’t drop your entire frigging schedule for the whole year. Im not talking about a trip here and there. Sorry man, your are always a voice of logic and reason but on this one I have to disagree, respectfully. Just not a smart strategy.
Also,
probation: a trial period during which your character and abilities are tested to see whether you are suitable for work or for membership.
Your first year you bring your A-game: show up early, shine your shoes every day, show them what you’re made of. You don’t drop your entire frigging schedule for the whole year. Im not talking about a trip here and there. Sorry man, your are always a voice of logic and reason but on this one I have to disagree, respectfully. Just not a smart strategy.
05-31-2021, 01:41 PM
#240
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2020
Position: SIC
Posts: 130
Originally Posted by FTv3
. I'm starting to dread going to work because no matter what I do at some point during my trip I'm going to decimate my body clock and sleep cycle routine. Doing this once in a blue moon is one thing. Done chronically it will start to kill you.
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