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Old 11-23-2019 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7x
How long we're you in the Pool? Congratulations to you. I heard the pool is shallow. Whatever that means.. Hopefully not more than 50.
A little over 1 year, however I was called in June and offered a class in August but couldn’t take it because of a job I was on overseas. I called them back when I got sorted out and they put me back in the pool. I am so happy with this since it is absolutely perfect timing.
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Old 11-23-2019 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by skysharke
A little over 1 year, however I was called in June and offered a class in August but couldn’t take it because of a job I was on overseas. I called them back when I got sorted out and they put me back in the pool. I am so happy with this since it is absolutely perfect timing.
Unfortunately you will regret it big time, timing means a great deal in aviation!! A few months in 2007 meant furlough or not. I’ve been around a few guys that were at foreign/middle east carriers when they got UPS/Fedex/Legacy FJO, none chose to defer/bypass. This is a cut throat industry, you NEVER voluntarily choose to give up seniority especially if it’s your “dream” job!!

Unless you are at Qatar Airways, which restricts your country departure, ALWAYS take first available!!! Timing isn’t always perfect, if potential folk is expecting “perfect” scenario/placement then roll the dice and see what happens. With our pilot group size of 2,950 or so, anyone junior to 2,600 cannot remotely become comfortable yet.
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Old 11-24-2019 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyTrails
Unfortunately you will regret it big time, timing means a great deal in aviation!! A few months in 2007 meant furlough or not. I’ve been around a few guys that were at foreign/middle east carriers when they got UPS/Fedex/Legacy FJO, none chose to defer/bypass. This is a cut throat industry, you NEVER voluntarily choose to give up seniority especially if it’s your “dream” job!!

Unless you are at Qatar Airways, which restricts your country departure, ALWAYS take first available!!! Timing isn’t always perfect, if potential folk is expecting “perfect” scenario/placement then roll the dice and see what happens. With our pilot group size of 2,950 or so, anyone junior to 2,600 cannot remotely become comfortable yet.
I’m reasonably optimistic that his regrets will revolve around not quite holding holidays off next year instead of being furlough bait. Seniority is important at UPS (and all airlines), but there are options to improve QOL outside of straight seniority. Smart bidding and well thought out life choices will matter for more.
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Old 11-24-2019 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyTrails
Unfortunately you will regret it big time, timing means a great deal in aviation!! A few months in 2007 meant furlough or not. I’ve been around a few guys that were at foreign/middle east carriers when they got UPS/Fedex/Legacy FJO, none chose to defer/bypass. This is a cut throat industry, you NEVER voluntarily choose to give up seniority especially if it’s your “dream” job!!

Unless you are at Qatar Airways, which restricts your country departure, ALWAYS take first available!!! Timing isn’t always perfect, if potential folk is expecting “perfect” scenario/placement then roll the dice and see what happens. With our pilot group size of 2,950 or so, anyone junior to 2,600 cannot remotely become comfortable yet.
I don’t think it’s ever fair to tell someone “you will regret it big time.” Yes seniority is important, but you never know what life situation requires one to make the decisions they make. I think it’s better to worry about your own life rather than tell someone they made a mistake they will regret.
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Old 11-24-2019 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyTrails
Unfortunately you will regret it big time, timing means a great deal in aviation!! A few months in 2007 meant furlough or not. I’ve been around a few guys that were at foreign/middle east carriers when they got UPS/Fedex/Legacy FJO, none chose to defer/bypass. This is a cut throat industry, you NEVER voluntarily choose to give up seniority especially if it’s your “dream” job!!

Unless you are at Qatar Airways, which restricts your country departure, ALWAYS take first available!!! Timing isn’t always perfect, if potential folk is expecting “perfect” scenario/placement then roll the dice and see what happens. With our pilot group size of 2,950 or so, anyone junior to 2,600 cannot remotely become comfortable yet.
Ya....lighten up Francis!
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Old 11-24-2019 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyTrails
Unfortunately you will regret it big time, timing means a great deal in aviation!! A few months in 2007 meant furlough or not. I’ve been around a few guys that were at foreign/middle east carriers when they got UPS/Fedex/Legacy FJO, none chose to defer/bypass. This is a cut throat industry, you NEVER voluntarily choose to give up seniority especially if it’s your “dream” job!!

Unless you are at Qatar Airways, which restricts your country departure, ALWAYS take first available!!! Timing isn’t always perfect, if potential folk is expecting “perfect” scenario/placement then roll the dice and see what happens. With our pilot group size of 2,950 or so, anyone junior to 2,600 cannot remotely become comfortable yet.
The horse is already dead... beating the beast ain’t gonna bring it back to life.

UPS prefers the honorable chap that lives up to their commitments rather than perhaps, one who would walk out on a job leaving a flight uncovered... just saying.
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Old 11-24-2019 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by captjns
The horse is already dead... beating the beast ain’t gonna bring it back to life.

UPS prefers the honorable chap that lives up to their commitments rather than perhaps, one who would walk out on a job leaving a flight uncovered... just saying.
This is a funny statement, making presumptions of UPS which are not there. UPS is one of the few employers that doesn’t require a letter of resignation from your previous employer, and from my personal, direct experience, seeing it myself, I don’t think they care at all what you do as long as you show up for class. This doing the right thing by your previous employer (when it comes to UPS) is simply a fantasy. It doesn’t make them a bad employer, not by far, just saying some have this misconception about UPS.
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Old 11-25-2019 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyTrails
Unfortunately you will regret it big time, timing means a great deal in aviation!! A few months in 2007 meant furlough or not. I’ve been around a few guys that were at foreign/middle east carriers when they got UPS/Fedex/Legacy FJO, none chose to defer/bypass. This is a cut throat industry, you NEVER voluntarily choose to give up seniority especially if it’s your “dream” job!!

Unless you are at Qatar Airways, which restricts your country departure, ALWAYS take first available!!! Timing isn’t always perfect, if potential folk is expecting “perfect” scenario/placement then roll the dice and see what happens. With our pilot group size of 2,950 or so, anyone junior to 2,600 cannot remotely become comfortable yet.

I already regret not being in the August class!
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Old 11-26-2019 | 09:49 AM
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I just received a CJO for 7 Jan. Five months in the pool.

Military heavy (IP/EP)
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About a year of regional 121 flying
Just over 3K hours

Looking forward to joining the team!
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Old 11-26-2019 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Fermi Paradox
I just received a CJO for 7 Jan. Five months in the pool.

Military heavy (IP/EP)
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Looking forward to joining the team!
Congratulations! Once you’re past year one, it’s great.
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