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02-11-2020, 01:39 PM

#31

PotatoChip

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I’m not even at UPS, but maybe watch the union videos Explaining all of that??

02-11-2020, 01:55 PM

#32

767pilot

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Originally Posted by PolarTiger

Why would UPS extend the current contract with pay increses? Would it not benefit them to keep us at the 2020 rates till 2025 and then give us a raise? (since a contract normally takes 5 years to complete) Im curious, what does UPS gain in giving us an extension?

Short story is that nothing is going to happen with us until the teamsters thing is settled and they don't want the public noise from an unhappy pilot group during that process. I guess that is worth 270,000,000 to them. Some of that is money that they'd have to pay in retro anyway.

02-11-2020, 01:56 PM

#33

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Originally Posted by PotatoChip

I’m not even at UPS, but maybe watch the union videos Explaining all of that??

yes they do but our union IT department has been outsourced to the same people that ran the iowa caucus. Maybe he wasn't able to watch.

02-11-2020, 02:05 PM

#34

tnkrdrvr

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Originally Posted by 767pilot

yes they do but our union IT department has been outsourced to the same people that ran the iowa caucus. Maybe he wasn't able to watch.

The videos were all working last night. They provide a well thought out explanation for why this is good for us and what UPS gets out of it.

02-11-2020, 02:27 PM

#35

BoilerUP

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Originally Posted by 767pilot

yes they do but our union IT department has been outsourced to the same people that ran the iowa caucus. Maybe he wasn't able to watch.

The two-person IPA IT department works very hard and recently upgraded internal hardware...but 2900ish people trying to watch a 40-something minute HD video choked the broadband provider.

02-11-2020, 03:07 PM

#36

206321

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Can someone post the new pay rates, or percent pay raise, and highlight changes?

In the interest of pattern bargaining, pilots over at AA, UA and DL are wondering. Thanks!

02-11-2020, 03:10 PM

#37

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Originally Posted by 206321

Can someone post the new pay rates, or percent pay raise, and highlight changes?

In the interest of pattern bargaining, pilots over at AA, UA and DL are wondering. Thanks!

I don't think they want it public at this time but perhaps your union has some details.

02-11-2020, 04:03 PM

#38

tnkrdrvr

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 206321

Can someone post the new pay rates, or percent pay raise, and highlight changes?

In the interest of pattern bargaining, pilots over at AA, UA and DL are wondering. Thanks!

Suffice to say, you should be able to argue that it’s wrong how the lowly box haulers are making more than the cattle haulers. Hopefully, you crush our compensation on your next contract and we can go back in 2023 for alot more. I’m pretty sure ALPA already has our numbers.