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Old 02-11-2020 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 206321
Can someone post the new pay rates, or percent pay raise, and highlight changes?

In the interest of pattern bargaining, pilots over at AA, UA and DL are wondering. Thanks!
See posts # 3 & 8. It should answer your questions. Basically no major changes and COLA pay increases. The ‘real’ contract negotiations will happen a few years later..
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Old 02-12-2020 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by whalesurfer
The ‘real’ contract negotiations will happen a few years later..
Sounds like me and about a thousand of my best friends will be gone by then. Crazy. I hope all you new guys are ready for the fight of your lives!
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Old 02-12-2020 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 206321
can someone post the new pay rates, or percent pay raise, and highlight changes?

In the interest of pattern bargaining, pilots over at aa, ua and dl are wondering. Thanks!
2021 cpt $351
fo. $249

2022 cpt $362
fo. $256
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Old 02-12-2020 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 767pilot
Sounds like me and about a thousand of my best friends will be gone by then. Crazy. I hope all you new guys are ready for the fight of your lives!
That thought is crazy to me. I came here expecting to wait a decade to upgrade, now it’s right around the corner. We will definitely have to be ready for a slog. I’m guessing the company will go all in trying to kill OCV, the pension, and our healthcare.
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Old 02-12-2020 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 767pilot
Sounds like me and about a thousand of my best friends will be gone by then. Crazy. I hope all you new guys are ready for the fight of your lives!
I’ve watched the video and the links and will vote yes.

The only concern I have with this agreement is the fact Bob T. might choose to retire from his position now that we won’t be negotiating for a few more years.. (IF the TA passes, which I believe it will)

Leaders prefer to leave on their own terms and historically speaking there’s no better time to leave than after a ‘peace treaty’ (TA) has been signed...

I hope he stays on for the next battle.
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Old 02-12-2020 | 04:28 PM
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I believe this is a win for the IPA and I will be a yes vote. That being said I find it hard to believe we gave up nothing. The company wants something just don’t know what, can’t trust those *********s.
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Old 02-12-2020 | 06:44 PM
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Just read your B plan improved to 13% also
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Old 02-12-2020 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kronan
Just read your B plan improved to 13% also

Not true. Only Defined Benefit (A plan) improvement.
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Old 02-12-2020 | 08:34 PM
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Forgot to add, I was also hoping for an over-cap B-plan cash payout once we reach IRS limits.. I believe this provision was given up in the ‘06 contract?

All captains and many FOs reach IRS retirement savings limits which is when the company stops contributing to our B-plans..
I’d rather pay 99% in taxes on whatever the cash payouts might be than to just give it up to the company.

I might be misunderstanding the issue but I vividly remember senior captains telling me how they used to get the over-cap check overages once they reached their IRS limit.

Still a yes voter but I wish the company had to pay us 12% whether we reach the IRS cap or not...

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Kronan - C2078 is correct, there are no changes to our B-plan.
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Old 02-13-2020 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr
That thought is crazy to me. I came here expecting to wait a decade to upgrade, now it’s right around the corner. We will definitely have to be ready for a slog. I’m guessing the company will go all in trying to kill OCV, the pension, and our healthcare.
The TA will give us another contact w/OCV, higher book rates, in theory, making it harder for the company to argue against them in 2023
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