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Old 04-06-2022 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Brett Hull
Will these external factors only affect us, or will FedEx & Western Global have to park all of theirs also?

Cant stress enough that this is just rumor. I don’t claim to know anything as fact. The rumor is this applies to Pratt MDs. As far as I know, FedEx and WG have all GE engines.
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Old 04-06-2022 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by navigatro
my neighbor, a retired UPS manager Van Driver, says we will soon announce 777 orders
Honestly, it means about the same. I would love to see it happen though!
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Old 04-07-2022 | 09:27 AM
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Respect the van driver, he may be your dispatcher next week.
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Old 04-07-2022 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy23
Cant stress enough that this is just rumor. I don’t claim to know anything as fact. The rumor is this applies to Pratt MDs. As far as I know, FedEx and WG have all GE engines.
Fedex has both engines
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Old 04-07-2022 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy23
Cant stress enough that this is just rumor. I don’t claim to know anything as fact. The rumor is this applies to Pratt MDs. As far as I know, FedEx and WG have all GE engines.
Fedex does have both engines, I have seen them in person.

We didn't know we were getting MDs until the morning it was announced and landed in SDF in full livery that day. We may park a few "Christine" airplanes, but UPS hasn't parked an airplane until WELL beyond it's useful service life (barring the 8, which was an FAA airworthiness records issue in a crippled economy). I see a fairly long life as the obvious replacement is a whole new engine class. Maybe we will see the 777-300 conversion prove itself with other carriers and move towards that, but we are talking significant time and a slow transition.

Everyone likes to spread rumors and they run rampant. We will know when the MDs are parked when we get reserve assignments to take them to Victorville or wherever, and we will know about a new airframe when it's on the ramp.
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Old 04-07-2022 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MD11Simnerd
Fedex does have both engines, I have seen them in person.

We didn't know we were getting MDs until the morning it was announced and landed in SDF in full livery that day. We may park a few "Christine" airplanes, but UPS hasn't parked an airplane until WELL beyond it's useful service life (barring the 8, which was an FAA airworthiness records issue in a crippled economy). I see a fairly long life as the obvious replacement is a whole new engine class. Maybe we will see the 777-300 conversion prove itself with other carriers and move towards that, but we are talking significant time and a slow transition.

Everyone likes to spread rumors and they run rampant. We will know when the MDs are parked when we get reserve assignments to take them to Victorville or wherever, and we will know about a new airframe when it's on the ramp.

Fair enough
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Old 04-08-2022 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy23
They do if external factors force the company’s hand, which is the rumor. That said, I expect a replacement, just no clue what.
Originally Posted by flyguy23
Cant stress enough that this is just rumor. I don’t claim to know anything as fact. The rumor is this applies to Pratt MDs. As far as I know, FedEx and WG have all GE engines.
As mentioned, we do have a mixed fleet of GE/Pratt MD-11s.

What are these external factors? Fallout from the Pratt powered UAL 777 that had the un-contained engine failure and the the cowling redesign?
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Old 04-08-2022 | 07:07 AM
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I think he was referring to the fact that Boeing hates supporting the MD11. I vaguely remember mx telling me that Boeing’s contractual support for the MD is ending sometime in the future. Who knows? Maybe Boeing will give FedEx and UPS a deal on replacements just to get out of having to support them.

I do know that a section of the Pratt engines is no longer being made and is increasingly harder and more expensive to come by. I heard that directly from the DO.
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Old 04-08-2022 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Flybynight101
I think he was referring to the fact that Boeing hates supporting the MD11. I vaguely remember mx telling me that Boeing’s contractual support for the MD is ending sometime in the future. Who knows? Maybe Boeing will give FedEx and UPS a deal on replacements just to get out of having to support them.

I do know that a section of the Pratt engines is no longer being made and is increasingly harder and more expensive to come by. I heard that directly from the DO.

Don’t the bus and MD share the same engine?
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Old 04-08-2022 | 12:42 PM
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That’s what I thought too when I heard that from him. Didn’t get a chance to dig further into that statement.

I mean the Bus is so Epic now so…
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