Not trying to whine but rather emphasize we shouldn’t be trying to beat this current Delta contract. We need to try to be competitive with Delta’s next contract that will come around fairly soon after ours—hence the feeling we are a contract cycle behind.

ok and maybe I’m whining a little.

Has there been any discussion of how retroactive pay will work for your eventual contract? You’re starting negotiations this month while still on the extension, but it’s not actually amendable until September 2025, right? If it starts now, do new hires get retro from date of hire or sometime later like activation into their fleet?

Retro..retroactive pay..is for pay raises u missed while negotiations were going on...will be a long time before we are missing a pay raise.

Contract negotiations start next week.

Extension 2022 provides a 3.25% raise on 1Sept24, and a 3.25% amendable date raise on 1Sept25...won't be a missed raise until 1Sept26.

Long story short we traded for small pay raises now rather than a larger retro package later. There were reasons, but don’t expect to see a significant lump sum retro unless negotiations go longer than two years.

Makes sense, thanks for the clarification!

What makes you think it won’t be a signing bonus like the last 2 contracts?

From my understanding the signing bonus was for "back pay".

Negative. It was in lieu of retro pay. Precedent set in 2006. Stayed the same with Contract 2016

Creek. Crick. its all the same

Not called retro cause then peeps would argue what "full" retro is

And I think ex wives could claim some of it. lol