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Steve3112 06-04-2024 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by jetlaggy (Post 3808452)
Creek. Crick. its all the same

Not called retro cause then peeps would argue what "full" retro is

And I think ex wives could claim some of it. lol

Got to keep those ex wives mits off of it!

hammer pants 06-04-2024 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by Steve3112 (Post 3808458)
Got to keep those ex wives mits off of it!

With the divorce rate here that is definitely a priority.

Swedish Blender 06-04-2024 12:38 PM

Look at it this way. Since it has been labeled a signing bonus by UPS instead of retro, why shouldn't we expect to get a "signing bonus" regardless of the TA extension raises.

jetlaggy 06-04-2024 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by Swedish Blender (Post 3808516)
Look at it this way. Since it has been labeled a signing bonus by UPS instead of retro, why shouldn't we expect to get a "signing bonus" regardless of the TA extension raises.


Expectation Zero

tnkrdrvr 06-04-2024 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by Swedish Blender (Post 3808516)
Look at it this way. Since it has been labeled a signing bonus by UPS instead of retro, why shouldn't we expect to get a "signing bonus" regardless of the TA extension raises.

I like the way you think.:D

skek 06-04-2024 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by jetlaggy (Post 3808452)
Creek. Crick. its all the same

Not called retro cause then peeps would argue what "full" retro is

And I think ex wives could claim some of it. lol

The ex wife part is true.

However it’s not the same. Because of the interim agreements with raises there would be no retro pay to be had. Retro is designed as back pay from when the contract becomes amendable to when it is ratified. In this case (hopefully) that will be a very short time. This is one case where a bonus will be more lucrative than retro.

jetlaggy 06-04-2024 04:40 PM

I get that ...but I will be totally shocked if the "bonus" is greater than what the "retro" would have been.

skek 06-04-2024 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by jetlaggy (Post 3808556)
I get that ...but I will be totally shocked if the "bonus" is greater than what the "retro" would have been.

Well retro will be zero as the contract should be ratified before the amendable date (caveat: this will require everyone to start doing the job of one pilot).

I would hope we secure a larger signing bonus this time around but 2016 was the same as 2006 so that’s my minimum expectation

Lowslung 06-04-2024 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by skek (Post 3808588)
Well retro will be zero as the contract should be ratified before the amendable date (caveat: this will require everyone to start doing the job of one pilot).

☝️ Get me some of what this guy's smoking! 😂

I like your optimism dude, but I just don't see how that happens. I'll happily eat crow here if it does tho.

jetlaggy 06-05-2024 01:07 AM


Originally Posted by skek (Post 3808588)
... the contract should be ratified before the amendable date...

That would shock me as well.


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