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03-05-2016, 10:22 AM
#42
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Position: Leftof longitudinal
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Originally Posted by Boeingluvr
A fairly high up manager type recently told me that I'd probably only hold base type lines on the Airbus but those would be pretty easy to commute from. Pushing me pretty hard to consider management since I have a lot of experience running my own companies and RJ captain for almost four years. They seem to get a bad rap on here but this guy was very generous with his time and very helpful. Definely not the big bad guys that some on here make them out to be.
03-05-2016, 10:40 AM
#43
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Originally Posted by SaltyDog
Pretty sure its not plural anymore. Rest retired.
Line pilots didn't let anything slide. No vote was offered on any rumored agreement nor was anything written to my knowledge.
Line pilots didn't let anything slide. No vote was offered on any rumored agreement nor was anything written to my knowledge.
03-05-2016, 03:48 PM
#44
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Originally Posted by FTFF
If I told you you could be hired as a direct entry training captain at Delta, wouldn't you think there was something highly fishy going on? Wouldn't you wonder why they are courting you, an domestic RJ driver, to train very highly experienced and distinguished professionals on Boeing and Airbus aircraft in a global theater, neither of which you have any experience; please, take no offense to your resume, just stating the facts. With some research you'll find that the reason YOU are being courted for this position is that no one else wants it. Most have the integrity not to undermine their fellow aviators and profession by taking such a position. Most don't want to show up to work knowing they are constantly being laughed at by their peers and having zero respect from those they work with. And keep in mind, a major aspect of our contract negotiations is to eliminate management flying altogether. Just the facts, do your research.
I ask the RJ captain, does it even make sense that they are soliciting you for management because you have run your own companies? When there are people out there with thousands of hours of international heavy experience, check airman, etc. Is it rational that they are soliciting you in particular, because of your awesome experience, or might people on this forum just be telling you the truth about how undesirable the position is? I think I would rather not fly at all, than be in a position where people despise me, mock me, and think of me as low as a scab.
03-06-2016, 06:15 PM
#45
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Position: 767 captain
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Originally Posted by Boeingluvr
A fairly high up manager type recently told me that I'd probably only hold base type lines on the Airbus but those would be pretty easy to commute from.
There are about 2000 or so pilots here. Every January we each receive a letter inviting us to be "promoted" to management. No one bites on it so they hire rj guys off the street for those jobs. There are reasons why.
Lesson one, don't listen to a manager
Lesson two, don't become a manager. No one will listen to you
03-08-2016, 03:41 PM
#46
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Originally Posted by Boeingluvr
A fairly high up manager type recently told me that I'd probably only hold base type lines on the Airbus but those would be pretty easy to commute from. Pushing me pretty hard to consider management since I have a lot of experience running my own companies and RJ captain for almost four years. They seem to get a bad rap on here but this guy was very generous with his time and very helpful. Definely not the big bad guys that some on here make them out to be.
03-08-2016, 04:36 PM
#47
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Posts: 16
Originally Posted by whalesurfer
I see, so your very brief interaction with this super nice and oh so generous manager supersedes other pilots perceptions? You know, the ones who've been here for 15-25 years!?? You have no idea what you're talking about and I'm guessing you're already a scab/manager or a scab wannabell! Un-freaking-believable!
Last edited by Linepilot; 03-08-2016 at 04:48 PM.
03-08-2016, 06:39 PM
#48
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Originally Posted by b2pilot186
There are two left actually. As to the second statement, I didn't realize that was the type of issue that gets voted on...Managers obviously crossed a picket line during the strike though, and none of the names show up on the master SCAB list...Tell me again how line pilots at the time didn't let this slide? Honest question...would appreciate an honest answer.
"Tell me again how line pilots at the time didn't let this slide? Honest question...would appreciate an honest answer"
Honest answer, (were you expecting something else?) have no idea. Never briefed, nothing in the record as far as I can tell. Guess we Teamster strike supporter types are slackers and bark like wild animals to much.
03-09-2016, 05:08 AM
#49
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Originally Posted by SaltyDog
See the other one. Both 88's. Pre IPA. UPS hired.
"Tell me again how line pilots at the time didn't let this slide? Honest question...would appreciate an honest answer"
Honest answer, (were you expecting something else?) have no idea. Never briefed, nothing in the record as far as I can tell. Guess we Teamster strike supporter types are slackers and bark like wild animals to much.
"Tell me again how line pilots at the time didn't let this slide? Honest question...would appreciate an honest answer"
Honest answer, (were you expecting something else?) have no idea. Never briefed, nothing in the record as far as I can tell. Guess we Teamster strike supporter types are slackers and bark like wild animals to much.
03-09-2016, 08:21 AM
#50
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Position: Retired from APC.
Posts: 507
Originally Posted by 767pilot
Were his lips moving? I have spoken to many guys that lost their Airbus captains seats and will not go back after their experiences as commuters with the base line trips. One guy, living in the northeast said he was only getting home 5 or 6 days a month as most of the days off blocks weren't commutable.
There are about 2000 or so pilots here. Every January we each receive a letter inviting us to be "promoted" to management. No one bites on it so they hire rj guys off the street for those jobs. There are reasons why.
Lesson one, don't listen to a manager
Lesson two, don't become a manager. No one will listen to you
There are about 2000 or so pilots here. Every January we each receive a letter inviting us to be "promoted" to management. No one bites on it so they hire rj guys off the street for those jobs. There are reasons why.
Lesson one, don't listen to a manager
Lesson two, don't become a manager. No one will listen to you
Don't forget, take a management job and there's now way you'll be committing from BWI. And you'll have 2500 of my brothers and sisters who are at the negotiation table right now asking what it will cost us to eliminate your position. As airline management likes to say: nothing personal, just business.
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