2017 UPS Hiring
02-01-2017, 12:14 PM
#392
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Joined APC: Oct 2011
Posts: 103
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Just in case anybody cares...the average age of newhires YTD is 42.
Trying to gauge what's considered competitive at the moment.
02-01-2017, 12:56 PM
#393
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Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: 767 captain
Posts: 2,696
What's ME3?
Anyone ever do the math for a 30 yr 60+ captains retirement without a flat dollar amount? I'm curious that someone said the flat dollar going away would force retirements.
I don't get too upset over training center comments about retirements. Most of the people there don't have them anymore and the ones with them are trying to scare the others from asking for more. How many times have we heard these middle level supervisors, or whatever the hell they are, comment that the IPA is running this place out of business?
Anyone ever do the math for a 30 yr 60+ captains retirement without a flat dollar amount? I'm curious that someone said the flat dollar going away would force retirements.
I don't get too upset over training center comments about retirements. Most of the people there don't have them anymore and the ones with them are trying to scare the others from asking for more. How many times have we heard these middle level supervisors, or whatever the hell they are, comment that the IPA is running this place out of business?
02-01-2017, 01:03 PM
#394
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Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: 767 captain
Posts: 2,696
Originally Posted by WhenPigsFLy
UAL, $85+$131+$153 (757)+$161(767)+$165(767) = $139 Avg over 5 yrs + 16% B-fund ($22) over 5 yr = $161 Avg pay over 5 years
UPS, $45+171+171+174+178=$147 Avg over 5 Yrs + 12% B-Fund ($18) Avg over 5 yrs = $165.
Variables:
1. UAL Profit Sharing Avg %15,for how long??
UPS, $45+171+171+174+178=$147 Avg over 5 Yrs + 12% B-Fund ($18) Avg over 5 yrs = $165.
Variables:
1. UAL Profit Sharing Avg %15,for how long??
02-01-2017, 04:15 PM
#397
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Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: 767 captain
Posts: 2,696
Originally Posted by Precontact
Emirates, Etihad and Qatar airlines. They're going to have to add Norwegian to that list as well...lots of challenges on the international side for Delta, United and AA.
Anyway, I digress. I don't know about the other me3 but Emirates is starting to show some cracks including aircraft order several. It's pretty hard to find a sustainable business model in the passenger world these days. Now it looks like our big boys are going to try the economy minus thing of four themselves. You can't be all things to all people. Give up on the schlepers and do a better job for the rest of us. This will probably work as well as when ups tried to haul pax.
02-01-2017, 07:20 PM
#398
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Position: Future DC-8 capt
Posts: 60
Originally Posted by Vito
Missed Service,
Don't know how old you are, but read a history book about the hysteria after Reagan "The Cowboy who was going to March us to nuclear Armageddon with the Soviets" was elected. The weak and feable Left was soooo fearful about the implications of Reagan's tough stance against the Soviets. Turns out the Soviets recognized that they weren't going to get away with all their BS anymore and ultimately made moves to accommodate Reagan's policies. The same wusses shrieked like chicken little after the Lybia bombing in 1986. After that raid, they cried , Like Schumer, that the Lybian's were going to exact revenge on us..turns out that kept real quiet for a looooong time..don't be scared, everything will be ok.
Don't know how old you are, but read a history book about the hysteria after Reagan "The Cowboy who was going to March us to nuclear Armageddon with the Soviets" was elected. The weak and feable Left was soooo fearful about the implications of Reagan's tough stance against the Soviets. Turns out the Soviets recognized that they weren't going to get away with all their BS anymore and ultimately made moves to accommodate Reagan's policies. The same wusses shrieked like chicken little after the Lybia bombing in 1986. After that raid, they cried , Like Schumer, that the Lybian's were going to exact revenge on us..turns out that kept real quiet for a looooong time..don't be scared, everything will be ok.
Wow...that was unsolicited. Comparing trumpty dumbty to the great Reagan? You're stretching a bit aren't you? Also try to explain to all of us why a union guy like yourself voted republican (assuming you did, actually im sure you did). How is that Right to Work rules going to work out when half the membership decided they're not going to pay dues because the law allows them to get freebies from unions and not have to open their wallets?
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