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Originally Posted by FTFF (Post 2388507)

...or someone is trying to build a resume for a new career at Fox propaganda.

First part. Maybe?
Second part - Step away from msnbc Rachel..

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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender (Post 2388567)

Sort of like the separate vacation bid for a group of pilots who were supposed to be furloughed but weren't. Reran the RIF bid, but they got to keep vacations their seniority wouldn't hold.

Huh? Can you expand on that? I've never heard of this and at the time we had several crashpad roommates who were supposed to be furloughed but weren't.

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Originally Posted by Ray Kinsella (Post 2388474)

Look at the list after the last bid in January. Look at the junior MD11 Capt in ANC then and in the current bid packet now. What happened? How did the person get there?

Ipa won't talk about it.

The last two captains on the anc md11 bid didn't hold captain in the last bid. Wtf?

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Originally Posted by nightrider (Post 2388666)

The last two captains on the anc md11 bid didn't hold captain in the last bid. Wtf?

DH was on the 16-103 award as MD ANC CA, as was TR.

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Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 2388673)

DH was on the 16-103 award as MD ANC CA.

The 2 below him didnt.

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Originally Posted by nightrider (Post 2388675)

The 2 below him didnt.

As BoilerUP stated, TR was on the award. The junior award stayed on in previous seat. Contract has provisions for events when upgrade doesn't occur and guessing that is how UPS contractually awarded the next senior person on a standing bid to the position.

Fake news or special favors?

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Originally Posted by Fly Boy (Post 2388729)

Fake news or special favors?

Article 14.E. Awarding of Permanent Bid Position (Vacancies)

1. Seniority
f. If a crewmember has been awarded a vacancy bid and is unable to complete training for that vacancy due to an approved leave of absence, he shall be scheduled for the next training class for the next vacancy in that position after returning to work. The system bid effective date for purposes of this Agreement shall be the system bid effective date of the vacancy in which he completes training. The initial vacancy for which the crewmember is not available may be reawarded. If the crewmember, after returning to work, is no longer interested in that vacancy, he must change his preference bid accordingly. An award of a different vacancy after return to work shall cancel the obligation to give him the next vacancy which he missed.”

Also, Article 14.I.3 allows a downgrade for hardship, so if awarded an upgrade, contractually can ask for the hardship to not upgrade as awarded, outlined below;

“A crewmember shall not be allowed to down bid or voluntarily downgrade, for reasons other than those set forth above, unless his current position is creating a personal hardship and a downgrade request is approved in writing by the Chief Pilot. The Company shall not unreasonably deny any crewmember request which is supported by a legitimate factual basis”

As has happened in the past, a request made contractually, and approved, and then 14.E.1.f applies.
I’m guessing fake news and nothing but a contractual event.

You know guys you can call the union for the story. Several of you here just want to stir the pot verses reading the contract or calling. So use some of your free time and energy and volunteer for a committee

In simple terms stop being @ holes.