Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-25-2014, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright
The fence dropping won't cause any more movement than there is now. The same number of openings will be filled by the same number of pilots, resulting in the same amount of training, regardless of lineage.
Now if DAL was to move aircraft AFTER the fence comes down, you're right. Which is the obvious reason why they will not do that. If they wanted the 747 in ATL, it would be much cheaper and easier to do it before the fence falls.
Now if DAL was to move aircraft AFTER the fence comes down, you're right. Which is the obvious reason why they will not do that. If they wanted the 747 in ATL, it would be much cheaper and easier to do it before the fence falls.
Sounds like a large % might leave this summer which might be part of the reason to hire instructors now.
04-25-2014, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 10000
I was thinking more that instructors would be leaving to get on the equipment while they can. They can elect to go where ever their seniority holds when leaving the training department, but after the fence falls they might not be senior enough to jump on.
Sounds like a large % might leave this summer which might be part of the reason to hire instructors now.
Sounds like a large % might leave this summer which might be part of the reason to hire instructors now.
04-25-2014, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
I understand the contract 'costs' the company more- that cost debatable depending on how you value it, (including 401k, medical plan valuation, higher sick pay *if you can use it, etc.
), and have NEVER felt compelled to fly while I was sick.
Originally Posted by flyallnite
...my personal situation is such that working the same hours, no overtime (GS) during those years, on the same jet, no longevity raises, my W2 is still less than it was in 2011.
04-25-2014, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 10000
I was thinking more that instructors would be leaving to get on the equipment while they can. They can elect to go where ever their seniority holds when leaving the training department, but after the fence falls they might not be senior enough to jump on.
Sounds like a large % might leave this summer which might be part of the reason to hire instructors now.
Sounds like a large % might leave this summer which might be part of the reason to hire instructors now.
04-25-2014, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan Shore
My understanding is that the valuation includes all changes to the PWA, which means it does NOT include items such as decreases to the value of our 401(k) when the market tanks, increases to the non-contractual medical plans should we choose to use them, etc. FWIW, I've used over half my sick leave, voluntarily verified those instances in which I used medical care (much to the chagrin of my CPO, I might add), and have NEVER felt compelled to fly while I was sick.
Forgive me, but how is that possible if the pay rate on that jet has increased by some amount?
), and have NEVER felt compelled to fly while I was sick.Forgive me, but how is that possible if the pay rate on that jet has increased by some amount?
04-25-2014, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 10000
I was thinking more that instructors would be leaving to get on the equipment while they can. They can elect to go where ever their seniority holds when leaving the training department, but after the fence falls they might not be senior enough to jump on.
Sounds like a large % might leave this summer which might be part of the reason to hire instructors now.
Sounds like a large % might leave this summer which might be part of the reason to hire instructors now.
04-25-2014, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
The trips are less productive and the profit sharing was lower. Believe me, I'm just as surprised.
04-25-2014, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
The trips are less productive and the profit sharing was lower. Believe me, I'm just as surprised.
The PWA added ADG and computer training rig and increases in daily vacation and training pay increase pay v. productivity.
I'd love to see your situation 'cuz I find it to be an outlier, but I'm open to seeing how it could have happened.
04-25-2014, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
The trips are less productive and the profit sharing was lower. Believe me, I'm just as surprised.
Most guys I fly with have expressed surprise with how much MORE they made in 2013 vice 2012.
04-25-2014, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
No - the profit sharing was HIGHER. 6.67% of pay last year; 8.26% of pay this year.
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