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01-26-2012, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
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01-26-2012, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
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01-26-2012, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by More Bacon
No way the company would offer something that low if they expect to have the contract done this year as RA has publicly stated.
So DALPA (through sailingfun, et al) continuously lowers our expectations and asserts that the company will open with 2-4%--and gets us to believe it--so when the company actually opens with more than that, it's basically free "bargaining" for DALPA without having to do any work.
So DALPA (through sailingfun, et al) continuously lowers our expectations and asserts that the company will open with 2-4%--and gets us to believe it--so when the company actually opens with more than that, it's basically free "bargaining" for DALPA without having to do any work.
RA isn't mentally challenged, he knows there is no way that this group will accept a 2-4% raise. If the company would propose this they are simply stalling because they have no intention of getting a deal done.
01-26-2012, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Is that the little thingy you hang on the door that says "please ignore this, knock anyway and 2/10th of a second later attempt to come in repeatedly even if the bolt that can only be activated from the inside is also locked?
01-26-2012, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
That's just gross off of the W-2's. I don't think my retirement is much better than his. I'm getting 11 percent right now. He's getting a 9 percent match. Mine's better, but not by much. His pay is better by a lot.
01-26-2012, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by More Bacon
It's called sandbagging.
No way the company would offer something that low if they expect to have the contract done this year--as RA has publicly stated.
So DALPA (through sailingfun, et al) continuously lowers our expectations and asserts that the company will open with 2-4%--and gets us to believe it--so when the company actually opens with more than that, it's basically free "negotiating" for DALPA.
And it conditions us to think, "well, I did want 40%, but if DALPA says the company's only going to offer 2%, maybe I should feel lucky to get 10%."
Lowering expectations.
No way the company would offer something that low if they expect to have the contract done this year--as RA has publicly stated.
So DALPA (through sailingfun, et al) continuously lowers our expectations and asserts that the company will open with 2-4%--and gets us to believe it--so when the company actually opens with more than that, it's basically free "negotiating" for DALPA.
And it conditions us to think, "well, I did want 40%, but if DALPA says the company's only going to offer 2%, maybe I should feel lucky to get 10%."
Lowering expectations.
DALPA isn't going to manage or lower your expectations that much... that's just a ridiculous analogy.
01-26-2012, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
That's reading into it wayyyy too much. If the company opens up with 4%, so be it.. they want a long negotiations process. Nothing to get in a tizzy over. If they open with something more reasonable then I will be pleasantly surprised.
DALPA isn't going to manage or lower your expectations that much... that's just a ridiculous analogy.
DALPA isn't going to manage or lower your expectations that much... that's just a ridiculous analogy.
01-26-2012, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by More Bacon
No way the company would offer something that low if they expect to have the contract done this year as RA has publicly stated.
So DALPA (through sailingfun, et al) continuously lowers our expectations and asserts that the company will open with 2-4%--and gets us to believe it--wo when the company actually opens with more than that, it's basically free "bargaining" for DALPA without having to do any work.
So DALPA (through sailingfun, et al) continuously lowers our expectations and asserts that the company will open with 2-4%--and gets us to believe it--wo when the company actually opens with more than that, it's basically free "bargaining" for DALPA without having to do any work.
If you vary your demands according to the other side's opening position, then there is something terribly flawed in your approach to negotiations. If you don't vary your position based on the other side's opener, then you have to acknowledge that however sailing speculates about the company's opener, it cannot equate to managing expectations.
01-26-2012, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Free Bird
RA isn't mentally challenged
I guess he'll have to decide when that cost becomes greater than the cost of the contract we'll demand. I agree with you, it will take a while.
It will get ugly.
01-26-2012, 11:46 AM
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...or I could have just waited for 80kts to come up with a shorter, simpler response. What he said.
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