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Old 02-15-2016, 08:58 AM
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When we start doing our recurrent on the iPad, management won't be able to come make these stupid claims to us. That's gotta be at least one bright spot of doing recurrent on the iPad.
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Old 02-15-2016, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by gonyon View Post
i think i may have missed something. did Bob hire someone to negotiate or operate or what are we talking about here?
Oops. I was reading the company email about the new guy they hired for the OCC when I responded to that post he came from Southwest.
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Old 02-15-2016, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod View Post
Yeah, somebody messed up some mundane detail...

Don't worry vb, you won't get the reference, but those evil senior guys will.

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Old 02-15-2016, 09:15 AM
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I guess it's a good thing Transition really ****es them off. It's the only thing that will help us get a contract.


Everyone shoud bid for Conflicts (I know a lot don't). Really show the company how much it's costing them. Then with a competent N/C, just sell it and everyone's happy.
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Old 02-15-2016, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr Pepper View Post
Oops. I was reading the company email about the new guy they hired for the OCC when I responded to that post he came from Southwest.
Who's the new OCC?
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Old 02-15-2016, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by VegassBus View Post
Everyone shoud bid for Conflicts (I know a lot don't). Really show the company how much it's costing them
Good plan, won't work. What they lose on transition is peanuts next to the wage increases necessary to ratify a TA. To borrow from Vinny Gambini, THERE IS NO WAY, THIS IS NOT GOING TO RELEASE.

Over the next few years you'll hear the NC talking about finessing the mediator (once we get THAT far) to show good faith bargaining. I wouldn't get too jazzed up until the proffer of arbitration gets shot down, then you'll be a couple months away. The goal right now should be to get into mediation as quickly as possible, with the intent of getting out of mediation as quickly as possible. Anything prior to release is a company delay tactic - they will make more money every day they can keep us on this CBA. Once released and in the 30 day cooling off period, THEN the real negotiations begin. After a couple short extensions of the deadline you will see a TA and badda bing... you get C2020.
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Old 02-15-2016, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod View Post
Good plan, won't work. What they lose on transition is peanuts next to the wage increases necessary to ratify a TA. To borrow from Vinny Gambini, THERE IS NO WAY, THIS IS NOT GOING TO RELEASE.

Over the next few years you'll hear the NC talking about finessing the mediator (once we get THAT far) to show good faith bargaining. I wouldn't get too jazzed up until the proffer of arbitration gets shot down, then you'll be a couple months away. The goal right now should be to get into mediation as quickly as possible, with the intent of getting out of mediation as quickly as possible. Anything prior to release is a company delay tactic - they will make more money every day they can keep us on this CBA. Once released and in the 30 day cooling off period, THEN the real negotiations begin. After a couple short extensions of the deadline you will see a TA and badda bing... you get C2020.

Yep, and unfortunately Ram is DEAD ON with his assessment!
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Old 02-15-2016, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod View Post
Good plan, won't work. What they lose on transition is peanuts next to the wage increases necessary to ratify a TA. To borrow from Vinny Gambini, THERE IS NO WAY, THIS IS NOT GOING TO RELEASE.

Over the next few years you'll hear the NC talking about finessing the mediator (once we get THAT far) to show good faith bargaining. I wouldn't get too jazzed up until the proffer of arbitration gets shot down, then you'll be a couple months away. The goal right now should be to get into mediation as quickly as possible, with the intent of getting out of mediation as quickly as possible. Anything prior to release is a company delay tactic - they will make more money every day they can keep us on this CBA. Once released and in the 30 day cooling off period, THEN the real negotiations begin. After a couple short extensions of the deadline you will see a TA and badda bing... you get C2020.


So if this happens the way you say, then we all should have just accepted that POS from the company? Even that god awful proposal would BEAT ANYTHING we would realistically get 4 years from now. 4 more years at these horrendous rates, you know, time value money thing. At least a 9 year CA in 2020 under the companies crap proposal would be over 200. Under this POS a 9 year CA makes $155! We are in horrible shape. Even if we went on strike so what Considering past history. You guys went on strike for that awesome $39.50 first year pay and killer slope)
You guys wonder why I'm so miserable.

We're F-----!
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Old 02-15-2016, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by VegassBus View Post
I know I've gone a bit over the deep end recently lol so I'll keep it civil.


Anyone notice our Airbus A321 override?

They have the decimel in the wrong place.


Let's hope it's fixed relatively soon
I'm flying with the union guy that is looking into this. The decimal is in the correct position but the calculations were done incorrectly. There should be something coming from the union soon. This is straight from him.
They shorted me by $55.
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Old 02-15-2016, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by sgt98c View Post
I'm flying with the union guy that is looking into this. The decimal is in the correct position but the calculations were done incorrectly. There should be something coming from the union soon. This is straight from him.
They shorted me by $55.
Here is a simple way to calculate it:
January rate was 1.01
Credit was 85 hours
Normal pay rate is $72.05.

.01 x 85 x 72.05 = 61.24

$61.24 should be the override pay.
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