Great use of Quid in my opinion. As a side note, if company agrees to fund the merger account, are they admitting to an imminent merger?

 

So according to the reference posted above for the exact paragraphs of the Alpa merger policy that address this, if we merge with a non-Alpa carrier this money comes straight out of our dues and if we don't have enough (small airline) then the MEC chair can petition Alpa national for more.

If it's a merger with another Alpa group (frontier may be Alpa soon) then national believes that both groups have an appropriate vehicle to (Alpa merger policy and representation by our reps) to move through the transaction.

It appears that nothing prevents either side from bringing in outside counsel but Alpa will not pay for it. So basically we are paying to lawyer up against the other group. Can we not just agree with the other Alpa group that neither side does this instead of both sides just paying to enrich lawyers. The seniority list ultimately will be decided by an arbitrator anyway.

 

Small vs Large relief is only for ALPA and non ALPA mergers

But you're correct, I clearly have no idea on merger policy and airlines. I'll go back to my corner.

 

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Ps "Dewey, screwem & Howe". +2 points

 

Slow down a minute there sir. I do think unity is the biggest component to our Cba success. I'll admit I'm guilty of making statements about a certain group hired during a certain period of time at spirit. It is divisive and I have not made any of those statements in sometime because I acknowledge they are counterproductive.

As far as the merger fund goes, well now I know. Thanks for the education. I'm still not sure us funding it is the right way to go. If it turns out that a merger with another Alpa carrier is announced we can choose to fund it then. If it's a non-Alpa carrier it's moot point.

What would be nice is communication from the MEC and merger committee explaining the points of the Alpa merger policy that you have referenced and under which scenarios we might need a merger fund. One line about a resolution is not acceptable IMO.

 

I'll respectfully disagree with this statement. Assuming you are referring to the Statment of Intent that is a subparagraph of paragraph 5.

I read that to say, there is already a vehicle for assuring equal representation if both are required to abide by this policy, but clearly highlights the intent to assure proper representation if the other party is not bound by this policy, i.e. ALPA/Non-ALPA.

And btw, I didn't say you have no idea about this or anything else, I just said what you posted was false. I respect the fact that you recognize the need to fund a merger account.

 

Fair enough, and I agree with you on unity. But one thing the internet generation seems to often forget, everything we say lives on for eternity on the internet and social media. In my opinion, it's not enough to just stop saying something, you should do something to mend the things you've said in the past. A simple apology on your past comments would go a long way, or even step up and defend unity when the recent bashing was taking place. You are a smart and educated guy, and whether you like it or not, people respect your opinion. Maybe you didn't ask for that burden, but your views and comments here have earned it. And no, I'm not butt hurt over those comments, I'd bet our seniority numbers aren't too far apart. I just disagree completely with those kind of divisive comments.

I'm glad you did learn something, but I will again respectfully disagree. I believe we should go in prepared, not playing catch up. But it's ok to agree to disagree, so long as both sides are dealing in facts. Honestly, I hope a resolution goes to membership ratification, but that will depend on how the resolution is written. Somethings can and should be decided by the MEC for the betterment of the group, I believe this is one of those. But I can see where some might not agree and feel memrat is the best way to go.

 

Holy Hell. I go away for a month for upgrade, come back on and its like the entire world is ending at Spirit

 

I know I've gone a bit over the deep end recently lol so I'll keep it civil.


Anyone notice our Airbus A321 override?

They have the decimel in the wrong place.


Let's hope it's fixed relatively soon

 

Side note, dispatched flight planning was down again last night. Almost two hours late before getting a clearance. I just laid my seat back and drank coffee.