Long Call Reserve
04-02-2020, 09:37 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by Stryker172
I hope the yes voters are proud of themselves.
But hey, I got that percent and a half for a few months until the world imploded so that was nice.
04-02-2020, 09:42 AM
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I was a no voter...and I stand by that vote.
But this is a forest/trees situation. I hope the airlines survive at this point. AWAC, UAL, etc. I’m not for waiving the contract for the company’s sake at this point (or any). But let’s look at the big picture — there are no people flying on airplanes because they are scared and the government has made it illegal. You can’t have a business case for this scenario. The government trough only gets you so far.
But this is a forest/trees situation. I hope the airlines survive at this point. AWAC, UAL, etc. I’m not for waiving the contract for the company’s sake at this point (or any). But let’s look at the big picture — there are no people flying on airplanes because they are scared and the government has made it illegal. You can’t have a business case for this scenario. The government trough only gets you so far.
04-02-2020, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by flightlessbirds
I was a no voter...and I stand by that vote.
But this is a forest/trees situation. I hope the airlines survive at this point. AWAC, UAL, etc. I’m not for waiving the contract for the company’s sake at this point (or any). But let’s look at the big picture — there are no people flying on airplanes because they are scared and the government has made it illegal. You can’t have a business case for this scenario. The government trough only gets you so far.
But this is a forest/trees situation. I hope the airlines survive at this point. AWAC, UAL, etc. I’m not for waiving the contract for the company’s sake at this point (or any). But let’s look at the big picture — there are no people flying on airplanes because they are scared and the government has made it illegal. You can’t have a business case for this scenario. The government trough only gets you so far.
Kirby told UA employees today that most of the 50 seaters will probably go away after this is over . I amagine they will keep gojet with the 550s, thats probably about it . We are screwed
04-02-2020, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
Better start working on that Cdl or electrician certification or something.
Kirby told UA employees today that most of the 50 seaters will probably go away after this is over . I amagine they will keep gojet with the 550s, thats probably about it . We are screwed
Kirby told UA employees today that most of the 50 seaters will probably go away after this is over . I amagine they will keep gojet with the 550s, thats probably about it . We are screwed
04-03-2020, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by flightlessbirds
I was a no voter...and I stand by that vote.
But this is a forest/trees situation. I hope the airlines survive at this point. AWAC, UAL, etc. I’m not for waiving the contract for the company’s sake at this point (or any). But let’s look at the big picture — there are no people flying on airplanes because they are scared and the government has made it illegal. You can’t have a business case for this scenario. The government trough only gets you so far.
But this is a forest/trees situation. I hope the airlines survive at this point. AWAC, UAL, etc. I’m not for waiving the contract for the company’s sake at this point (or any). But let’s look at the big picture — there are no people flying on airplanes because they are scared and the government has made it illegal. You can’t have a business case for this scenario. The government trough only gets you so far.
04-03-2020, 12:28 PM
#17
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Originally Posted by iceman21
What's the point of long call reserve if all the company is going to do is convert it to short call after day 1.
Secondly, who negotiated that into the contract?
Seems that there is no point to having a long call reserve line or even bidding it.
Secondly, who negotiated that into the contract?
Seems that there is no point to having a long call reserve line or even bidding it.
1. At the very least, your first day would be given better rules. The announcement from the company doesn't actually follow the contract but that seems to be the usual case with scheduling making up their own rules.
2. The negotiating committee would be my assumption
3. Slightly better rules and protection for some reserves. If the company converts to short call every time, they have to provide hotel rooms in domicile after doing it twice.
04-03-2020, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RAHkid94
Another reason the new contract is garbage. Having had a few LC assignments before I had no idea why people were actually excited for it.
Originally Posted by iceman21
I was excited about it until the new contract.
04-03-2020, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Omnislash
You have never actually had LCR at this company. LCR wasn't in the old contract and at the very least, it's a little better than regular short call. Not sure how something better makes the new contract garbage... It's not perfect by any means, but this doesn't make it worse than what we already had.
except for all the concessions but sure. Reduced furlough pay and getting rid of OE pay, among other things. Hope it was worth it for the occasional hotel for fraction of the pilot group.
04-03-2020, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Escargot
Furlough pay dropped from four to three weeks. Just vote yes so ALPA can put it in their newsletter. Who cares what's in it?
Originally Posted by RAHkid94
Interesting, that never got brought up at Skybridge.... Neither did the loss of OE pay.
2. If the furlough is caused by an event beyond the control of the Company (as
provided in this subsection) such as an act of God, emergency AD, ATC
shutdown, or wildcat strike, the Company will not be required to give twenty-one
(21) days’ notice or pay in lieu thereof as set out in paragraph B.1. above.
With that, it doesn't matter if it says 21 days or 30 days!
As for the "loss of OE pay" that was just rumors that started on this forum (now continued by you) and it has been confirmed that OE is paid out properly like it always was before.
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