700/900 rates.
03-07-2021, 08:33 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by Omnislash
No. I didn't say that at all. I said make a call if you want more information to fill in the gaps or better understand what you are reading and then implying out of context.
03-07-2021, 08:41 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by Imapylot
I understand exactly what I read and if there are gaps that the union feels are important to point out, then I’m sure they will. I read all 36 pages and it makes sense to me. I’m not saying I’m happy or not happy with the result.
03-07-2021, 08:49 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by Omnislash
It's Only March 2021 right now... Don't act as if getting the rates based on October is nothing when we have two raises between now and then to get to where the rates were even based off of.
03-07-2021, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Omnislash
Let's be honest though, this isn't really the place to get factual information. Most of the posts on this forum are wild rumors that get more extravagant as they grow in the crew room and on the line. Then there are those of us that take a little bit of factual information that is sent out and try to paint a more extravagant picture from it by trying to fill in the blanks on our own. As pilots we seem to always be thinking the worst and that picture that we try to enhance just gets more obscure. Sometimes it seems like we are kids with a coloring book and crayons. Coloring all over the page doesn't make you Jackson Pollock though. Moral of the story, ask someone that knows what the they are talking about instead of the angry kids with crayons.
03-07-2021, 10:12 AM
#36
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Originally Posted by WhiskyWhisky
Look at it this way. Our ALPA union dues are offset by this rate, so you get a FREE ALPA membership by flying 700s.
03-07-2021, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Imapylot
That’s not how it works. Dues are 1.95% of your income. They are not a set dollar amount. If you make more money, you pay ALPA more money and vice versa.
03-07-2021, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Imapylot
That’s not how it works. Dues are 1.95% of your income. They are not a set dollar amount. If you make more money, you pay ALPA more money and vice versa.
03-07-2021, 03:25 PM
#39
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Originally Posted by Omnislash
I didn't think it is at 1.95% and thought they decreased it recently too.
03-07-2021, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Escargot
Arbitrary (pun intended) math determines that MESA rates increase 3.5% when comparing -7 vs. -9. Skywest comes in at a whopping 0.88%. Average equals 2.2%.
So, somehow MESA is the 'saving grace'.
Personally, I think we could've settled on 9% blend (5+13)/2. Oh well, at least we know we won't be undercutting Skywest anytime soon.
Mesa
700: $69
900: $75
SkyWest
700: $88
900: $90
(Not including the multiple bonus’s you receive per year after 2 years of service)
We have multiple bases (PHX, DFW) with 700 only flying who appreciate the 700 rate being closer to the 900 rate.
Something else to consider, SkyWest has substantially more 700’s than 900’s. So when negotiating pay contracts, having the 700 pay up near the 900 is beneficial for the pilot group as a whole.
On the contrary, Mesa has more 900’s than 700’s, so they most likely focused more on pushing the 900 rate higher.
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