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Old 06-30-2021, 11:19 AM
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What about the markets that have a need for higher passenger capacity by lack jet bridges. I see a case for 700s and 900s there.

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What about the markets that have a need for higher passenger capacity by lack jet bridges. I see a case for 700s and 900s there.

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UA is at is limit if 70/76 seaters. Air stairs are cheap to acquire.
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What about the markets that have a need for higher passenger capacity by lack jet bridges. I see a case for 700s and 900s there.

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Scope prevents any additional rjs over 70 seats
UA didnt buy a new nb type so any new large rjs won’t happen
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Old 06-30-2021, 12:07 PM
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Interesting how y'all don't connect the dots here. Higher gas prices are inevitability the death to 50-seaters. A brief look at history will teach a very frank lesson of the impacts of high gas prices, green energy agendas, and basic economics and the impact to an RJ fleet. I clearly predicted this 7 or 8 months ago on APC. Don't turn a blind eye on the fact that the riddance of 50-seaters was due to skyrocketing crude oil under current administration. Y'all need to Aviate quickly, or dust off the old résumés. Not more then 3 months from breathing a sigh of relief from the Covid crisis, now y'all face a Crude Oil and Inflation Crisis as it relates to operating 50-seat RJs. Maybe old Air Whisky would be better off buying a fleet of NextGen ATRs or Embraer NextGen T-props. Don't get so hung up on 700's and 900's. That is the wrong direction in this climate, whether you voted for it or not.

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Old 06-30-2021, 12:08 PM
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Interesting how y'all don't connect the dots here. Higher gas prices are inevitability the death to 50-seaters. A brief look at history will teach a very frank lesson of the impacts of high gas prices, green energy agendas, and basic economics and the impact to an RJ fleet. I clearly predicted this 7 or 8 months ago on APC. Don't turn a blind eye on the fact that the riddance of 50-seaters was due to skyrocketing crude oil under current administration. Y'all need to Aviate quickly, or dust off the old résumés. Not more then 3 months from breathing a sigh of relief from the Covid crisis, now y'all face a Crude Oil and Inflation Crisis as it relates to operating 50-seat RJs. Maybe old Air Whisky would be better off buying a fleet of NextGen ATRs or Embraer NextGen T-props. Don't get so hung up on 700's and 900's. That is the wrong direction in this climate, whether you voted for it or not.

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/high...ry?id=78554949

https://www.flightglobal.com/airfram...140876.article

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If you read the investor slides at all, oil prices didn’t factor into the decision. It’s mainly about capturing premium customers with first class options. None of the slides said “50 seat RJ’s”, they said “single cabin” RJ’s. They’re going to upgauge the current 70/76 seat routes and trickle down those aircraft into the busier/more premium smaller markets, use the 550 on smaller markets with premium pax and keep a handful of single class aircraft for the smallest of cities.
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Old 06-30-2021, 12:40 PM
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Hey I was reading through these posts and was wondering if anyone knew a timeline for this reduction of 50 seaters to happen? Obviously there's a chance Air Wisconsin would get affected but I'm wondering if it's more likely to be someone else. I just got a CJO yesterday for a 7/30 CTP date and I'm wondering if/how this will affect me. Anyone have any insight/advice to give?

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Investor event presentation

Look on page 13.
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Originally Posted by Mando314 View Post
Hey I was reading through these posts and was wondering if anyone knew a timeline for this reduction of 50 seaters to happen? Obviously there's a chance Air Wisconsin would get affected but I'm wondering if it's more likely to be someone else. I just got a CJO yesterday for a 7/30 CTP date and I'm wondering if/how this will affect me. Anyone have any insight/advice to give?

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If I were you I would read this entire thread again as well as several other threads in the United forum .
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If I were you I would read this entire thread again as well as several other threads in the United forum .
ya, Skywest on the ERJ wouldn’t be a bad place to be at the moment.
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon View Post
If you read the investor slides at all, oil prices didn’t factor into the decision. It’s mainly about capturing premium customers with first class options. None of the slides said “50 seat RJ’s”, they said “single cabin” RJ’s. They’re going to upgauge the current 70/76 seat routes and trickle down those aircraft into the busier/more premium smaller markets, use the 550 on smaller markets with premium pax and keep a handful of single class aircraft for the smallest of cities.
You are actually wrong. 100% wrong. Proof? Go to slide #31 of UAL Invest Event - June 2021.

"Newer aircraft are at least 50% more fuel efficient per seat than our least efficient fleets"
"New generation large narrowbodyaircraft provide significant fuel burn reduction"

If you don't think this is due to directly related higher oil prices, then you need to lay off whatever it is that you are smokin'. Wow!
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