Originally Posted by WhistlePig

1. The current contract is a concessionary one that is about, oh ... 15 years old. The company is not even faking an attempt at good faith negotiation. The company is tighter than a frog's @55 and expects further concessions for more money and reasonable work rules. Yes, even in this market. The current contract reads more like a handshake deal and the company has exploited the naivete of the pilots who negotiated to the fullest, to the detriment of the current work force. Good on 'em, but it's time to tighten up the language.



2. There haven't been upgrades in 2 years because we don't have the FO's to upgrade. We don't have the FO's to fly the bid flying without using all of the reserves and then some. It's arguable that we don't even have the contract minimum number of captains, but I don't have a dog in that fight. I don't think 18 month upgrades are realistic, maybe 24 for the new guys? Who knows?



3. Operationally, AWA is great. I fly with a lot of different folks and I enjoy going to work every trip. The constant reroutes, extensions, junior-manning are a real drag. Line holders here are flying for a completely different airline than reserves (reference the contract above). It's a great place to learn and get experience and there are some great folks who work here, but once you can move up and out, do it.



Study. Work hard. Don't take anything for granted and have a positive attitude and you'll be on the line before you know it.



Cheers.

Originally Posted by TEX2

I apologize if this has been asked and answered before, but any idea what the commitment is for the different bonuses?

Originally Posted by Pilotdude3407

Supposedly they are dropping a contract on people when they show up for class that basically makes them stay and if they leave they have to repay the money back. This isn't even being mentioned in the meet and greets or interviews. There is a schedule of payback if you leave but I don't know what it is.

Originally Posted by TEX2

There's always a catch. I just wish the different companies would be upfront and lay out all the stipulations behind their bonuses. I'm wondering if there are any of the various bonuses that aren't tied to a 1 year contract (or longer). If anyone who's gone through training knows, please do tell. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Pilotdude3407

Supposedly they are dropping a contract on people when they show up for class that basically makes them stay and if they leave they have to repay the money back. This isn't even being mentioned in the meet and greets or interviews. There is a schedule of payback if you leave but I don't know what it is.

Originally Posted by WisJudge

I was a May 14 hire. I think I had our insurance numbers around June 1. I know for sure I was still in systems (3rd and 4th week in ATW) when they were available. Not sure of all the dates as our clan is healthy. Call, ask, and then let others know. Everyone here is approachable and helpful.

Originally Posted by pilottim

For a July 23 hire date health insurance benefits will start September 1.
Added to CASS after you are done with systems in ATW.
Family travel benefits start 16 days after employment on American (and I believe United after those benefits start company-wide in September), 6 months for ZED.

Originally Posted by airborne840

What are the average monthly premiums for a family using the company health insurance?

Originally Posted by BravoPapa

I've PM'd with somebody here on the forum who shall remain nameless, but he was told by AW that there were no training contracts or strings attached to the bonus. On the day they were first supposed to issue the first $5k check with 25% taken out, they said he had to sign an agreement for 25 months or you will own the company the whole amount the day you resign.