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Old 07-13-2017, 04:29 AM
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"We expect to see approximately 10 upgrade awards..."

The hedging language in that statement gives me serious doubts about its accuracy.
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Old 07-13-2017, 05:17 AM
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"We expect to see approximately 10 upgrade awards..."

The hedging language in that statement gives me serious doubts about its accuracy.
Might be a way to slow down FO resignations. Cheaper than increasing the second retention bonus.
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Might be a way to slow down FO resignations. Cheaper than increasing the second retention bonus.
Maybe 10 ... Not a chance
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Originally Posted by StrykerB21 View Post
"We expect to see approximately 10 upgrade awards..."

The hedging language in that statement gives me serious doubts about its accuracy.
Do the math and you'll see that there are upgradeszzzzzzzz coming
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Old 07-13-2017, 10:33 AM
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I'm a new hire starting training in a few weeks. I've heard nothing but good things about AW (very excited to get started) and didn't even know there were contract negotiations until this thread.

Can anyone here give a rundown of the current state of things? How long have negotiations been taking place? What are the main points of contention? From the limited info I have seen (rigs, block or better, vacation, etc.) I thought the current contract was pretty solid. Obviously hourly pay is a major issue at every regional, but are there big issues with the contract besides hourly pay?

Also, what's the deal with upgrades? I gather there haven't been upgrades in a while but it doesn't seem possible to put upgrades off forever. Is the company short captains? Do you think the predicted 18-24 month upgrade is not realistic? Just trying to get a feel for what to expect moving forward.

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Old 07-13-2017, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by lukeh99 View Post
I'm a new hire starting training in a few weeks. I've heard nothing but good things about AW (very excited to get started) and didn't even know there were contract negotiations until this thread.

Can anyone here give a rundown of the current state of things? How long have negotiations been taking place? What are the main points of contention? From the limited info I have seen (rigs, block or better, vacation, etc.) I thought the current contract was pretty solid. Obviously hourly pay is a major issue at every regional, but are there big issues with the contract besides hourly pay?

Also, what's the deal with upgrades? I gather there haven't been upgrades in a while but it doesn't seem possible to put upgrades off forever. Is the company short captains? Do you think the predicted 18-24 month upgrade is not realistic? Just trying to get a feel for what to expect moving forward.

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I think most people research a company before taking a job there.
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I think most people research a company before taking a job there.
Sometimes it's hard to tell what's just sour disgruntled employees and what're legitimate grievances.
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Old 07-13-2017, 12:46 PM
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I think most people research a company before taking a job there.
I agree with you 100% I actually did a lot of research and have talked to former pilots. This thread is the first I've seen with recent discussion about the contract. Is there a place that has better info than this forum?
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon View Post
Sometimes it's hard to tell what's just sour disgruntled employees and what're legitimate grievances.
This says it best ^^^
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Old 07-13-2017, 04:48 PM
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I think most people research a company before taking a job there.
Dude, I've followed this thread for months and still really don't have any clue what you guys are talking about. So it is nice to get a synopsis every once in a while. Unfortunately, this forum is about the only place you can get the ground truth. The only other sources out there is the company hire page which is all peaches and roses.
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