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Old 06-28-2017, 06:56 PM
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CPP info available now.

Interviews start end of this year.
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Old 06-29-2017, 07:05 AM
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So the CPP is essentially the same as Commutair, if not worse because we have a higher PIC requirement (double that of Commutair).

So much for the promise of drastically different and almost flow like they've been telling people.

"Starting in 2018, we have a guaranteed number of spots every year for Air Wisconsin pilots in United’s new hire classes."

Not saying how many per class, or what % of the class needs to be from Air Wisconsin is telling. It must be really low. So that's great, assuming they only take 2-3 a class, this really doesn't help anyone except the super senior people that have 3,000 hours with the company and will be able to move on if they're taking a low number.

It's nice to have in the back pocket, but this seems like nothing more than a carrot to attract new hires.
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Old 06-29-2017, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyPKP View Post
So the CPP is essentially the same as Commutair, if not worse because we have a higher PIC requirement (double that of Commutair).

So much for the promise of drastically different and almost flow like they've been telling people.

"Starting in 2018, we have a guaranteed number of spots every year for Air Wisconsin pilots in United’s new hire classes."

Not saying how many per class, or what % of the class needs to be from Air Wisconsin is telling. It must be really low. So that's great, assuming they only take 2-3 a class, this really doesn't help anyone except the super senior people that have 3,000 hours with the company and will be able to move on if they're taking a low number.

It's nice to have in the back pocket, but this seems like nothing more than a carrot to attract new hires.
I wasnt expecting anything different. These programs have always been a carrot on a stick.
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Old 06-29-2017, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FODhopper View Post
If they let me instruct there for three years then the training was not "brutal" only my in-class jokes and for some, listening to my IBTs.
Which are still being used... so you live on at AW!
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Old 06-29-2017, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyPKP View Post
this really doesn't help anyone except the super senior people that have 3,000 hours with the company and will be able to move on if they're taking a low number.

It's nice to have in the back pocket, but this seems like nothing more than a carrot to attract new hires.

Agreed that it sucks overall but the "super senior guys" have closer to 20,000 hours with the company and any captain on property has at least 3,000 hours.
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Old 06-30-2017, 12:32 PM
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Agreed that it sucks overall but the "super senior guys" have closer to 20,000 hours with the company and any captain on property has at least 3,000 hours.
What the hell does that even mean. The "super senior guys" probably won't go.

It's going to be interesting like a snuff film to see how this ends up shaking out. I can't imagine we can send more than 3 or 3 per month for the first 6 months. Them we should see the true numbers start to develop. We can't lose more guys than we hire and that will, as always, will be the determining factor.
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Old 06-30-2017, 09:27 PM
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What's the consensus on if ORD will be going junior or senior? What're the junior bases currently?

Need to explore those lifeboat options after the SkyWest pay agreement.
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Old 07-01-2017, 05:38 AM
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What's the consensus on if ORD will be going junior or senior? What're the junior bases currently?

Need to explore those lifeboat options after the SkyWest pay agreement.
When mgmt addressed our class the expectation was ORD would be the largest and most junior.
PHL is currently the junior base.
Flying for UA starts in September.
IAD will see the first activity. DCA will be the first closure.
Announced UA flying for Sept and Oct supports their claim re ORD.
If you joined us now you'd probably be ORD out of the gate.
I came from another regional for a host of reasons, zero regrets.
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Old 07-01-2017, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Flubber View Post
Which are still being used... so you live on at AW!
I'm so sorry for all of you.
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Old 07-01-2017, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by WisJudge View Post
When mgmt addressed our class the expectation was ORD would be the largest and most junior.
PHL is currently the junior base.
Flying for UA starts in September.
IAD will see the first activity. DCA will be the first closure.
Announced UA flying for Sept and Oct supports their claim re ORD.
If you joined us now you'd probably be ORD out of the gate.
I came from another regional for a host of reasons, zero regrets.
Good Luck!
Any idea what kind of routing the UA agreement has? I.e., what locations will be supported out of ORD?
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